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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46375...-own-home-police-say

https://www.sltrib.com/news/20...t-killed-when-plane/

Obviously this man had issues. Fortunately the wife and son from a previous marriage escaped without injuries.

Can anyone tell if the plane was a Cessna Citation? There is at least one engine nacelle in some of the photos. To me it looks like the plane hit a vehicle in the driveway, but not the house.
 
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Gulfstream





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Citation Jet C-525.


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Wow, is insurance likely to cover the owner of the plane?
 
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CBSnew.com says Cessna Citation 525.

It's getting a little crazy this week with people crashing their employers airplanes on purpose!




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Was it his employer's? Local news said he had permission to "borrow" the aircraft.

If he clipped a neighbor's house or shed, maybe that contact forced the trajectory into the ground? I doubt he would have missed the house otherwise.
 
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CBS said he was a pilot and it was his employers airplane.

An airplane site says the plane was owned by Vancon Holdings. I googled that and it is a construction company in Springville, UT.




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Wow, is insurance likely to cover the owner of the plane?


I haven't read an aircraft insurance policy so beats me.

On the house side of things, "intentional acts" are excluded so the repairs to his home may be denied unless the state has a provision where an innocent spouse can get coverage. If there is a mortgage, the bank can file a claim up to the balance owed (their "interest" in the property).

The neighbor's house that got clipped would be straight up covered.




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That's a hell of a way to get out of paying alimony.


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Doesn't look like all that much damage to the house




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Hmmm.... Looks like someone tuned him up during or before the Domestic Violence pinch.
And where I worked, no bail until you meet the Judge.


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Doesn't look like all that much damage to the house


It seems to me the damage to the house was done by fire, not impact. If a vehicle hit the front of the house going 60 mph there would have been more damage than shown in the photos. A jet aircraft could have demolished the house if it had it. It must have hit the ground.
 
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Hmmm.... Looks like someone tuned him up during or before the Domestic Violence pinch.
And where I worked, no bail until you meet the Judge.
not here in Utah. He is released and issued a no contact order at jail. He can't go home or call until he sees the judge or he violates the order and gets locked up again. Clearly he violated the no contact order.
 
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Cessna Citation 525

I know very little about small jet planes but I went up on the net and the first model of this many years ago reportedly had a new price of 2.8 million bucks and current models are shown around 9 million if that information is correct.
 
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A gulfstream (except a G150) is a lot bigger and a lot heavier and a lot faster than a Citation. The aircraft in those photos isn't very big and has straight wings; A Gulfstream does not.

The mishap aircraft, N526CP, was a 1995 Citation 525 belonging to Vancon Holdings.
 
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Doesn't look like all that much damage to the house


It seems to me the damage to the house was done by fire, not impact. If a vehicle hit the front of the house going 60 mph there would have been more damage than shown in the photos. A jet aircraft could have demolished the house if it had it. It must have hit the ground.


The jet is a lot heavier than a vehicle and was likely moving a lot faster. The Citation probably weighs 6-7,000 lbs empty. If it was airborne to hit the roof of the house across the street, it probably was traveling at least 90 mph.




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Cessna Citation 525

I thought for sure that T Tail was a Gulfstream.





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Cessna Citation 525

I thought for sure that T Tail was a Gulfstream.






Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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