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This is what you get when a Muslim, non-American, Leftist opinion speaker expresses his ignorance of American history and its founding principles. Talk about elitism and condescension!

(Short history lesson: prior to 1913, the year America lost its founding principles by passage of the 17th Amendment, imposition of a permanent income tax and the founding of the Federal Reserve, U.S. Senators were elected by STATE LEGISLATURES and not the popular vote. The purpose was that each state would have equal representation in one legislative body - the Senate - while representation by population would be in the other - the House of Representatives)

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CNN hosts Fareed Zakaria and Don Lemon expressed their frustration with the electoral map and the structure of Congress, calling the Constitutional concept of equal representation in the U.S. Senate a "structural problem."

In a Washington Post op-ed, Zakaria weighed in on the “new dividing line in Western politics,” which he describes is the “less-educated rural populations” he calls “Outsiders’” who “feel ignored or looked down upon” and “feel deep resentment towards metropolitan elites.”

“If you look at the people who feel the most outrage… it tends to be on the older side, white men with less education who live outside cities,” Zakaria told CNN host Don Lemon. “Because in a way, their world has been upended. They lived in these small towns and they felt they had a lot of status, they had a steady job, and that world has gone away and that world has been replaced by, you know, the jobs are gone, that status has gone away with the rise of a much more diverse, heterogeneous society.”

Zakaria then pointed to a study which determined that 75 percent of the economic gains since the 2008 recession “have gone to the 50 top cities in America,” and noted that all the cities together “occupy 3.5 percent of the landmass of America.”

“So what’s happening is economic activity and opportunity is being concentrated in these small, you know, strips on the coast and a few cities in the center,” Zakaria elaborated. “And the people who are not there feel like they’ve just been left behind and they once had status and now they’re angry and resentful.”

“But that’s where the populations are,” Lemon told Zakaria, who noted that 70 percent of Americans live in cities. “That’s what has people so upset. And now you see resentment on the part of people who live in the city because they feel they’re being represented by a smaller group in the country… Next year, we’re going to have a Senate that the majority represents a minority of Americans in this country.”

“Well, another way to put that statistic is 30 percent of America is now electing 70 percent of the Senate,” Zakaria replied. “All those states with -- you think of Wyoming. It has roughly a million people. It has two senators. California with 70 million people has two senators as well. So we have a kind of structural problem here where the land is being overrepresented. The people are being underrepresented. So both sides feel deeply wronged.”

What wasn’t acknowledged by either of the CNN hosts is that in the House of Representatives, Wyoming only has one representative while California has 53, the most of any state.




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I’ve come to expect extreme levels of stupidly from anything any of CNN’s propagandists say or do. It’s par for the course.


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They think we live in a democracy. They are ignoramuses.



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The real reason why elitist fuckstains like Zakaria oppose Wyoming having the same number of Senators as DPRC is precisely why the nations Forefathers created the legislative republic.

I am eternally greatful that those long deceased wise men were perpetually wary of unchecked authority.
 
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“you think of Wyoming. It has roughly a million people. It has two senators. California with 70 million people has two senators as well. So we have a kind of structural problem here”

Fortunately, there’s nothing he can do about it. Smile



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Wait til he finds out that one state of fifty gets one of eight representatives in the house. I'm sure he'll be pissed.

I don't think he understands the point of two houses of Congress.



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They think we live in a democracy. They are ignoramuses.



He came from a country that is closer to a democracy than we are. And it's a third world sh*thole.


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Wait til he finds out that one state of fifty gets one of eight representatives in the house. I'm sure he'll be pissed.

I don't think he understands the point of two houses of Congress.

Every time a lefty likes to bring 'this problem' up, all you have to do is throw ^^^ this right back at them. The usual reaction is befuddlement and confusion. Most blew-off Civics class in high school thus, their frustration with how the US govt ACTUALLY is structured. Holy hell, these people truly live in a bubble...amazing their jobs pay so well.
 
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They never seem to have as much problem with two Senators from Vermont despite a population nearly identical to WY.
 
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Zakaria & his kind could not make in the country, ordinary folks that would call them out on their b/s. They'd have to leave. They wouldn't even get a "bless your heart".
 
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I think allowing this guy on TV under the guise of the First Amendment is a structural problem as well



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“If you look at the people who feel the most outrage… it tends to be on the older side, white men with less education who live outside cities,” Zakaria told CNN host Don Lemon. “Because in a way, their world has been upended. They lived in these small towns and they felt they had a lot of status, they had a steady job, and that world has gone away and that world has been replaced by, you know, the jobs are gone, that status has gone away with the rise of a much more diverse, heterogeneous society.”


So much stupid in this paragraph.

And, the cities in the land of his birth are such a shining example. And how equal all people there are treated.

Fareed, if things are so bad here go home. You could be up shit's creek Ganges) there literally.
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"structural problem."


the "structural problem" is their own intellectual ignorance and abysmal historical vacuity of the exact reason for such a structure.

The failure to solve their own urban problems by imposing ignorance upon the rural population is a pathetic diversion.


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I think everyone is looking at the wrong part of this story. It isn't that this dipshit doesn't understand how our government works. The real problem is that these oxygen thieves are on the air 24 hours a day repeating that white people are bad and are actively working on keeping all others down.
Just because their side is full of racism and is the main topic rattling around their heads all day must certainly mean that their opponents that they dispise due to the color of their skin must feel the same way.
Projection is what they do and they have never failed to blame whitey and the right for EVERYTHING that they are guilty of.
 
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Funny how those who used to argue against the tyranny of the majority are now, when they feel they have the majority, arguing to oppress the minority. Human hypocrisy and selfishness knows no bounds.


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It may be that they are as stupid as you say. It may also be that they are just continuing to push left. The more stupid viewers may swallow their garbage, and the may get more people leaning that way. They’re not going to convince anyone here, but of course SIGforum members are more intelligent, more judicious, wiser, and better looking than the average. Wink
 
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CNN's Fareed Zakaria: Wyoming having same number of senators as California is a 'structural problem'

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You know, that guy is absolutely right. No way should California be sending as many Senators as Wyoming does. Wyoming isn't screwed up beyond redemption, whereas California......
/sarc off

The Constitution was pretty well designed. While our Founders were wrestling with how to set up a controllable Federal government whose one job was to serve its citizens, and setting up checks and balances internal to the structure, much of the rest of the world was trying to figure out how to better control their subjects for the sole benefit of their royalty.

One of the checks and balances was to make sure big states couldn't push little ones around, and the Senate deal is how that was accomplished.

Another part of the deal is that little states can't force larger states to be broken up into into bite-size chunks.

Otherwise, hey, maybe the "Wyomings" and others could band together and gerrymander CA, say by whittling out a bunch of free, red states, leaving a much smaller 'California-husk' retaining their illegals, their 'activists,' their quaint idiosyncratic laws, as well as the debt and obligations piled up by decades of mismanagement.

While Mr. Zakaria has clearly not internalized the immortal advice that 'it is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubts," he has every right to his opinion.

The bigger question is, why do people watch that dreck? It's surely not to be informed and it doesn't seem even remotely close to entertainment.
 
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Can't wait to see his reaction when he learns that Wyoming's population is actually closer to 520,000 - not 1 million.

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Zakaria isn’t worth commenting on. Lemon doesn’t know me or my state anymore than he knows the dark side of the moon. He’s front and center among a whole galaxy of dim bulbs on network and cable news.

ETA: Wyoming having the same number of senators is yet more proof of the brilliance of our Founding Fathers, and lends credence to the idea that they were Divinely inspired.

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