Cargo plane down in Texas with 3 aboard.

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February 24, 2019, 10:21 AM

ChicagoSigMan

Awful news.

Isn't this the first fatal crash of a US 767 (other than the intentional crash on 9/11)? Such an incredible safety record on that plane.

February 24, 2019, 10:32 AM

coloradohunter44

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Originally posted by nojoy:
I fly for Atlas on the 747. I just found out about this via FB. I don’t have any more info than the news yet.

Yes sad news. Prayers for those lost.

I have a good friend, recent hire for Atlas. His first name is Ben. We flew together down at PGA AZ. Maybe you guys will get paired up sometime.

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February 24, 2019, 11:03 AM

Jimbo54

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Awful news.

Isn't this the first fatal crash of a US 767 (other than the intentional crash on 9/11)? Such an incredible safety record on that plane.

Seems so. Here is a list of failures and crashes of the 767. Looks like a pretty good record with fuel mismanagement being the biggest problem.

http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/b767.htm

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February 24, 2019, 11:18 AM

rscalzo

Very sad. It will be some time until the cause is known for sure. Recovery itself can be even worse in the shallow mud in the area.

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February 24, 2019, 11:29 AM

Jimbo54

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Originally posted by rscalzo:
Very sad. It will be some time until the cause is known for sure. Recovery itself can be even worse in the shallow mud in the area.

Yep, they're going to have a tough time finding the black boxes because they're saying that there is 5 feet of soft mud at the bottom of the bay. It's going to be critical to find them since there is so little information about the cause of the crash.

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February 24, 2019, 01:41 PM

ASKSmith

Prayers for their families and loved ones.

I’m not a pilot, but for a plane that size, is 3 crew members normal for a cargo flight?

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February 24, 2019, 01:54 PM

Jimbo54

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Originally posted by ASKSmith:
Prayers for their families and loved ones.

I’m not a pilot, but for a plane that size, is 3 crew members normal for a cargo flight?

Apparently 2 crewmen is normal. The third guy on this flight was in transit and not a part of the flight crew.

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February 24, 2019, 03:33 PM

sns3guppy

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Originally posted by ASKSmith:

I’m not a pilot, but for a plane that size, is 3 crew members normal for a cargo flight?

Captain and First Officer. The third person was from a different airline. He was "jumpseating," or getting a ride to work, which is done throughout the industry.

Cargo flights will always have a captain and first officer (copilot), but often carry additional crew members for longer legs, and may also carry a mechanic and loadmaster aboard.

February 24, 2019, 05:15 PM

jhe888

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Originally posted by Andyb:
Read there was heavy rain and it went nose in according to witnesses. Wind shear/Micro burst?

RIP to the crew

"The flight had departed from Miami and was bound for George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, Texas when it nosedived and plunged into the bay, which is just about five feet deep and is mostly mud marsh.

It made a steep descent from 6,525 feet to 3,025 feet in 30 seconds, according to tracking data from FlightAware.com"

Rain, but light. Nothing too heavy

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February 24, 2019, 07:36 PM

sns3guppy

The controller advised light to moderate returns ahead, then revised to say heavy, suggested a turn and advised ATC would accommodate.