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What is your opinion? I know we have many medical types here and discussions of tourniquets have occurred - I didn't see where this particular type had been discussed. https://www.aedsuperstore.com/...uets-aed-superstore/ Here at AED Superstore we are always listening to our customers and their requests for new products. Tourniquets were one of those items consistently mentioned, so when our representatives attended the EMS World Expo in October, they were excited to find S.T.A.T. Medical Devices and their easy-to-use tourniquet with a familiar design. Their immediate reaction was “It’s a big zip tie! That’s brilliant!” and got to work getting S.T.A.T.’s tourniquet on board for our customers to purchase. S.T.A.T. tourniquets are made in the USA with latex-free materials and have the following features which make them simple for a layperson to use: Five-second application by a person with no experience A time strip where the timer starts counting once it is activated with a simple push of a button – no batteries! The ability to tighten in 2-millimeter increments with use on limbs sizes as small as 20 mm. SImple, visible instructions printed right on the tourniquet. A release lever to remove the tourniquet for surgery with a safety cover so it doesn’t accidentally release during transport. An automatic self-locking mechanism. Made of a proprietary bullet resistant material which reseals after being shot. A finger loop which allows for extra grip while applying. One feature which will be familiar to anyone who has ever used zip ties frequently is the ability to join several together to form a much longer zip tie. In the case of the S.T.A.T. tourniquet, putting several together turns them into a torso compression strap. Once on, the compression strap applies consistent pressure to a packed wound on the chest, stomach, or back, and leaves a rescuer’s hands-free for other life-saving tasks. ST.A.T. Medical Devices tourniquets are a great choice for emergency vehicles (the finger loop at the top is the perfect size to fit on a large carabiner which can be hung in an ambulance or other first responder truck for ease of access to multiple tourniquets). As part of a first aid kit, they are compact before opened so do not take up much room while adding a component which may save someone’s life one day. Uncontrolled bleeding is the number one cause of preventable death from trauma. Someone with life-threatening bleeding can die within 5 minutes if it is not stopped quickly. Tourniquets are a key component to stopping blood loss. Take a few minutes to check out our new tourniquets from S.T.A.T. Medical Devices and let us know what you think in the comments. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | ||
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It's not you, it's me. |
I’m more surprised this has only recently been invented. | |||
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Just for the hell of it |
Can you get it tight enough? Looks like a good idea. Want to see real-world use. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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Info Guru |
The ability to tighten in 2-millimeter increments with use on limbs sizes as small as 20 mm. A release lever to remove the tourniquet for surgery with a safety cover so it doesn’t accidentally release during transport. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Just for the hell of it |
Just saw you could undo it. Edited my post but not quick enough. Thanks. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Looks nifty. As long as they work. I've seen several gimmicky TQs that didn't actually perform as advertised out in the real world. The timer is nifty (if not all that necessary in many/most civilian situations), but I can tell you from a LE standpoint that activation button is not ideal. Most TQs in LE use get bumped and banged around quite a bit during their life, rattling around in or on active shooter kits, plate carriers, or cargo pockets. With a prominent "power" button like that, they'll most likely be inadvertently activated months/years before the TQ is actually applied to anyone. | |||
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Member |
Appears to be a vastly superior design and priced right too. I wonder if it has had real world use yet? End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Bolt Thrower |
Looks on the thin side, and I wonder how slick it gets with blood on it and your hands. Sure is a simple design. | |||
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Freethinker |
It looks no different in basic function than the ancient “strap and buckle” design that, according to the head of a trauma department who taught a class I attended a couple of years ago, is essentially worthless. I would be curious to see that it can actually be tightened enough to work on a thigh, for example. I would bet a nickel that windlass type tourniquets can exert far more compression force than what any normal person can manage with this one. How, as just one question, does one increase the compression by pulling on the free end if pulling just raises the injured limb off the ground? Does someone else have to hold the limb down as the device is pulled? If so, that’s hardly an ideal aspect of its use. From a report: “Wolff and Adkins noted that the US Army strap and buckle tourniquet lost tension during application, and it was often ineffective on thighs. The US Army tourniquet then was a standard-issue, 1.5-inch wide, 42-inch long, cotton webbing strap of nonpneumatic design, including a spring-tension clamp buckle with teeth. It did not have a windlass or other mechanical advantage. It was ineffective in controlling arterial bleeding because later testing showed that it could not reliably eliminate the arterial pulse in the thigh and that it may have contributed to the widespread feeling that tourniquets were ineffective.” This may be more effective in retaining tension, but I would want more evidence than cutting off the flow of water through a pool noodle. ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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Member |
I think I'll stick with proven, tested designs like the CAT or SOFTT-W. | |||
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Wait, what? |
Agree. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
Interesting, but I would want to see live-tissue testing. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Agreed.
Put a hand on the limb, or kneel on it. (Obviously not an option for self aid.) That's commonly used with the initial gross tensioning of the modern windlass TQs (CAT/SOF) anyway.
Yep. Nifty electronic faux legs are no substitute for real-world testing. | |||
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SF Jake |
design looks too thin and I have serious doubts as to how much you can actually tighten it on a thigh and stop arterial blood flow. I too, will stick with the CAT, proven device. This coming from soneone that has used them real world for what it’s worth. ________________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither | |||
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Member |
It has to be narrower. With it's wide and comfortable grip, not enough pounds per square inch can be applied. -c1steve | |||
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Freethinker |
Narrow per se isn’t the answer. That’s why things like shoelaces or paracord doesn’t work well as tourniquets in some applications. What is required is sufficient compression pressure over an area that reaches the deeper structures where the arteries are. One of the photos in the class I referenced was of the leg of a soldier who suffered a traumatic amputation. An effort to stop his bleeding was made with a cord of some sort, but although it cut deeply into the flesh, it had no appreciable effect on the hemorrhage. ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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Member |
Lots and lots of stuff actually works. I just participated in the rescue of a young women run over by a boat and cut badly by the prop. A young man used the suspenders from his fishing gear to make a tourniquet and saved her life. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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Freethinker |
The question isn’t whether other things work. The question in this discussion is whether this works and whether it is a better choice than tourniquets that are known to work. Were the suspenders employed like this device, that is, like an oversized zip tie? ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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Member |
I'm skeptical that you could actually get it tight enough to stop blood flow. Tourniquets can be difficult to get tight enough, especially on muscular arms or legs. I don't think that I want to be an early user....I'll stick with my Cats... | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Thanks for following up, chongo. From the article:
In law enforcement, we call that a clue. Hopefully the word gets out on these before too many folks start buying them, and someone dies needlessly. | |||
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