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Ever seen a house slide down a cliff?

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April 23, 2023, 01:40 PM
4x5
Ever seen a house slide down a cliff?
This is so sad for these families
https://www.ksl.com/article/50...n-draper-no-injuries

Video of the collapse

The aftermath:




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April 23, 2023, 01:55 PM
Balzé Halzé
Yeah, pretty awful. I think I read that one of those family had only just purchased the home and was only in the house for less than a year.

Those homes by the way, packed on top of each other with barely any acreage per lot, were sold for around $900,000. Ridiculous.


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April 23, 2023, 02:05 PM
abnmacv
Looks like a bad place to build a house even worse with them packed tight. Guess gravity and soil conditions were considered. Law suits will follow the cleanup.


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April 23, 2023, 02:11 PM
darthfuster
Yeah that’s about 15 minutes from me. I have clients in that neighborhood. People scrape together their life savings to live in mountain neighborhoods like that. It’s so beautiful there and the air is clean. What a heartache for those people.



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April 23, 2023, 03:25 PM
sigcrazy7
Those homes were built by Edge Homes. There’s a joke in there, but it’s too soon.

I sure hope they have insurance that will cover this. It would really be bad for them if landslides are excluded or denied. We haven’t even gotten a good start on the snow melt this year. In 1983, we didn’t have homes in these locations. It was still all BLM back then.



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April 23, 2023, 04:11 PM
bald1
How about a sinkhole swallowing homes?

Residents in Black Hawk, South Dakota were forced to evacuate their homes due to a giant sinkhole that opened under the Hideaway Hills development. An old gypsum mine was discovered under the development after the sinkhole collapsed. This happened in 2020 and law suits are still grinding their way against the County, developers, and original owners of the gypsum mine. It is a royal goat rope. Frown

My dentist's receptionist is one of those affected.



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April 23, 2023, 04:23 PM
229DAK
Now imagine living on either side of the homes that were lost. What perils do they face now?


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April 23, 2023, 04:48 PM
konata88
Does that happen suddenly or are there warnings like settling cracks, doors sticking, etc? Seems like bad soil for housing. Not just neighbors but across the street too? Seems like soil subject to easy erosion.




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April 23, 2023, 05:13 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by konata88:
Does that happen suddenly or are there warnings like settling cracks, doors sticking, etc? Seems like bad soil for housing. Not just neighbors but across the street too? Seems like soil subject to easy erosion.


The homes were condemned back in October; the owners were forced to leave then. So yes, they knew these homes were in dire trouble.


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April 23, 2023, 05:33 PM
Veeper
We see homes slide into Lake Michigan all the time, but when the water is up it’s something you know is pending when your land or beach gets reclaimed by the lake.

I can’t say I would ever imagine something like that happening to me if I moved to Utah. That’s crazy.

I hope they have at least some recourse.




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April 23, 2023, 05:52 PM
229DAK
I hope the housing developer's geologist has insurance....


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April 23, 2023, 06:02 PM
Fly-Sig
That's up in Sunrise up on top of an alluvial deposit from mountain runoff in an area called "point of the mountain". It was a beautiful place 5 or 10 years ago before they started building everywhere. Trails for hiking or biking were accessible from every street. But it can be very windy in most of the area. A few localized spots were well sheltered.

They are usually well above the dense January valley fog from the inversion.

It looks in that video as if the developer put in some retaining walls below that line of houses and filled in behind the walls. Obviously not an adequate job.
April 23, 2023, 06:35 PM
ensigmatic
That really sucks Frown

Looks like they had a beautiful view--for a while.



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April 23, 2023, 07:04 PM
wcb6092
Speaking of sinkholes. You have to have a rider on your insurance policy to cover that. Landslides I have no idea what coverage you would need.


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April 23, 2023, 09:08 PM
Jelly
That would suck. Looking at the video and the terrain. Some of that housing development was built on a water drainage gully. That was filled in either by man or nature or both right where those houses were built that went down the gully. I would not want to be a home owner across the street from the houses that went down the gully either.
April 23, 2023, 09:27 PM
Sacramento Johnson
The whole place does not look like an area that should have housing on it.
April 23, 2023, 10:16 PM
ugeesta
That is one heck of an earth moving project. That fill has to be 30 feet deep.

Agree with above. The gully they filled was a dumb idea. Hard to tell but there doesn’t appear to be any drain tile under the fill. I’m sure the water was slowly building up and just waiting to fail.

Too bad for the homeowners…




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April 23, 2023, 11:30 PM
Ackks
Wasn't one of those on the news a few months ago and the company offered to buy it back?

All those homes are literally built on sand. If you think that's bad wait until the big earthquake hits. The fact people drive past Point of the Mountain and don't realize that's what they are building on astonishes me.
April 24, 2023, 12:34 AM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by 229DAK:
I hope the housing developer's geologist has insurance....


A newly constructed home, that someone had been in for a year? I sure hope there were geotechs and test pits etc.

I expected to see some coastal erosion flavor when I clicked in. This is different, somebody(s) done fucked up.


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April 24, 2023, 03:34 AM
SigSAC
Take a look at Google maps for the addresses listed in the article. The overhead looks scary - those "retaining" walls look like they were built with sand.