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Originally posted by cas:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
The solutions to these problems is simple

If you cheat during an election you automatically lose.

That's it? I'd propose the death penalty.

and I think the guillotine or drawing and quartering would be appropriate - done in public as a warning to all others that want to try to be rulers instead of servants

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

and I think the guillotine or drawing and quartering would be appropriate - done in public as a warning to all others that want to try to be rulers instead of servants

I think public castration with a rusty butter knife would make good entertainment.

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Originally posted by cas:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
The solutions to these problems is simple

If you cheat during an election you automatically lose.

That's it? I'd propose the death penalty.

Absolutely. Think about it. If you murder a person you impact the lives of maybe a half dozen people. You cheat an election and you impact the lives of 10's of millions of people and potentially the future of the country.

NJ has a great site for seeing if you voted in an election.
https://www.nj.gov/state/elect...rack-my-ballot.shtml

My vote @7:15am, in person. shows I didn't vote this election. The same with my daughter and 3 others that have gotten the same outcome.
So... Who's Zooming Whom?

My county was solid Red
https://external-content.duckd...y.svg.png&f=1&nofb=1

The map is misleading because the Blue areas are the very dense population areas and there, you have it.

So every morning when I get up to read the local liberal rag newspaper, I hope the headlines are Murphy didn't.

This is definitely not over. Not even close. This is a statement from the Ciattarelli campaign that was just issued.

"Unofficially, 66,405 votes separate Jack Ciattarelli (1,219,906) and Governor Phil Murphy (1,285,351) – a margin of 2.6% of the vote.

As a result of Governor Murphy’s rush to implement early voting, technology errors resulted in voters being forced to cast approximately 70,000 provisional ballots which have yet to be counted.

An unknown number of vote-by-mail ballots are still being received through today and have yet to be counted.

Based on information and belief, there is an unknown number of emergency ballots that are yet to be reported by County Clerks."

There has been no official certification of the race. The count remains on going. Once there is an official count, Jack will make a decision about a recount. Note the number of provisional ballots not yet counted that exceed Murphy's lead. Note this is without even any allegations of fraud. Jack has not conceded. We will see.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
This is definitely not over. Not even close. This is a statement from the Ciattarelli campaign that was just issued.

"Unofficially, 66,405 votes separate Jack Ciattarelli (1,219,906) and Governor Phil Murphy (1,285,351) – a margin of 2.6% of the vote.

As a result of Governor Murphy’s rush to implement early voting, technology errors resulted in voters being forced to cast approximately 70,000 provisional ballots which have yet to be counted.

An unknown number of vote-by-mail ballots are still being received through today and have yet to be counted.

Based on information and belief, there is an unknown number of emergency ballots that are yet to be reported by County Clerks."

There has been no official certification of the race. The count remains on going. Once there is an official count, Jack will make a decision about a recount. Note the number of provisional ballots not yet counted that exceed Murphy's lead. Note this is without even any allegations of fraud. Jack has not conceded. We will see.

Jack ran a really, really shitty campaign. He distanced himself from Trump and never attacked Murphy on the Nursing home deaths, the total crushing of small businesses nor Murphy allowing for never ending unemployment so recovering business cant get anyone to work and lastly the tenants allowed to not pay their rent ,yet they can not be evicted ever! Those poor landlords still have to pay Murphy, the outragous property taxes.
He was limp dick about attacking his opponent from day day 1. Despite this multi-terms in the NJ Legislature, he was this close due to the hatred of The progressive carpet bagger rather than the love for Ciaterelli.
Jack will go back to his legislative position and not suffer a thing for his piss poor performance.
Typical Republicans, rarely picking a good candidate rather picking from within the good ole boys club.
The best thing Jack did was to finalized those sitting on the fence, to GTFO of this asshole state once and for all. As the people continue to flee...

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Originally posted by downtownv:
Jack ran a really, really shitty campaign. He distanced himself from Trump and never attacked Murphy on the Nursing home deaths, the total crushing of small businesses nor Murphy allowing for never ending unemployment so recovering business cant get anyone to work and lastly the tenants allowed to not pay their rent ,yet they can not be evicted ever! Those poor landlords still have to pay Murphy, the outragous property taxes.
He was limp dick about attacking his opponent from day day 1. Despite this multi-terms in the NJ Legislature, he was this close due to the hatred of The progressive carpet bagger rather than the love for Ciaterelli.
Jack will go back to his legislative position and not suffer a thing for his piss poor performance.
Typical Republicans, rarely picking a good candidate rather picking from within the good ole boys club.
The best thing Jack did was to finalized those sitting on the fence, to GTFO of this asshole state once and for all. As the people continue to flee...

Polls had him down by 10 percent prior to the election. How much time, effort and money do you want to put into a race like that?

I would have run more of a scorched earth policy against Murphy. God knows there's plenty of stuff to to throw at him. However, I'm not convinced that a full out "I love Trump he endorsed me" with Trump campaigning here would have helped. In fact, this being NJ where Trump was absolutely crushed, I think it would have hurt. Jack got lots of suburban women who voted for Biden to vote for him. That's a fact. But who knows. I don't claim to be a political expert. Maybe more of a Trump focused campaign would have helped.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

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Originally posted by cas:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
The solutions to these problems is simple

If you cheat during an election you automatically lose.

That's it? I'd propose the death penalty.

and I think the guillotine or drawing and quartering would be appropriate - done in public as a warning to all others that want to try to be rulers instead of servants

Project Veritas records New Jersey poll worker allowing a 'non-citizen' unregistered voter to fill out ballot.

YouTube won't allow this video and Rumble only has a shortened video clip, so anyone wanting to see the video will need to view it from the Project Veritas website.

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ILLEGAL CONDUCT: New Jersey Gubernatorial Election Worker Tells Non-Citizen and Non-Registered Voter She Will Allow Him to ‘Fill Out Completely a Ballot Now’

NOVEMBER 03, 2021

• NJ Election Worker, Essex County: “Remember, we were allowing anyone to come in.”

• NJ Election Worker, Essex County: “I’ll let you fill out completely a ballot now. Whether or not it’s going to count, I don’t know.”

• NJ Election Worker, Essex County: “Listen, we’ll let you do it [fill out a ballot].”

• Project Veritas has reached out to Essex County Board of Elections Chairwoman Bethany O'Toole for comment. No comment has been received at the time of publication.

[East Orange, N.J. – Nov. 3, 2021] Project Veritas released a new video today exposing malfeasance that took place in the state’s gubernatorial election, where an election worker was willing to provide a ballot to a Veritas journalist disguised as a non-citizen and non-registered voter.

In a conversation between two election workers, one of them affirmed to the other that there was no true voter verification occurring at that location during the presidential election -- and supported providing a ballot to the Veritas journalist posing as a non-registered non-citizen.

“Remember, we were allowing anyone to come in,” she said.

When addressing the Veritas journalist in disguise, one of the poll workers said she was willing to provide a ballot.

“I’ll let you fill out completely a ballot now. Whether or not it’s going to count, I don’t know,” she said.

“Listen, we’ll let you do it.”

In a governor’s race that has been called with only about a one percentage point difference separating the candidates, this behavior is at the very least questionable.

The voters in New Jersey deserve to know how many locations were allowing such a practice to fester.

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Originally posted by Edmond:
Capital punishment would serve as a great form of punishment and deterrence to cheating in an election.

Well, it would certainly cut down on recidivism.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
I would have run more of a scorched earth policy against Murphy.

In war and politics, this is the only way to do it or stay home.

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It was dismaying to follow the returns Tuesday night and watch the Republican challenger comfortable in the lead in the State's most populous County, only to find that in the middle of the night, that lead had somehow jumped to the Democratic incumbent.

That’s how they know how many ballots need to be "found”, they count the republican strongholds first.