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Did they tow and impound the cars? That had to be ugly.

I'm actually looking at the C8 convertible as my next car since BMW is doing away with hard top convertibles.


They did.


Well, I guess you can google it. I cant find the image that doesn't post as that little thumbnail.




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recently someone I know that has own several corvettes sold his latest and purchased a NEW c8 vette..... at about 5000 miles had major tranmission failure sitting at a traffic light when it refused to move foward or reverse.. after some time transmission removal/disassembly/ reaserch could not explain reason for failure.. a brand new factory transmission installed after almost 2 months in the shop...warranty no cost to owner... can"t decide whether to keep or sell.............drill sgt.


NOT a C8. Total BS post. Unless your "friend" is one of the C8 Team Engineers he DOES NOT have a C8.
................................... SO SORRY IF I MIS-SPOKE about the vette as to it being a new C8 vs new C7...I know he purchased it new ...just assumed.. but the transmission failure is real ................drill sgt.
 
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Nothing new about this activity, engineers have been sneaking high performance cars out on the streets for decades.

Woodward Ave, Detroit, famous for drag racing is where skunk works boys for GM, Ford, Mopar would drop experimental high horsepower engines in cars you'd never suspect and go out and beat the snot out of the local racers.

They just got popped by a trooper who happened to be in the right place for him and the wrong place for them...

If i'd have been the trooper i'd let them go if they let me run the C8 down the road. Big Grin

Bob Segar even put it in Horizontal Bop

Summers finally made it
Yeah it's finally here at last
The pony cars are cruisin' on woodward avenue
Go and try to pass'em
They'll smoke you if you do
The whole town's shakin' from the bottom to the top
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I'll bet that they are refreshing their resumes at present.

Being close to MPG (Milford Proving Grounds) there was a story around here of a test driver on the high speed oval setting the car at the predesignated speed and playing autopilot with it, from hearsay he was reading a book.

As the story was told, he was seeking new employment shortly thereafter.


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If every manufacturer of fast cars fired every employee who drove those fast cars fast, then there would be no employees at the fast car manufacturer.

My girlfriend got to go for a test ride in a Veyron, and he had it over 100 MPH before the top of the on ramp. Fast doesn't equal dangerous, even on public roadways.

If they were being dangerous, then that's another story.


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If every manufacturer of fast cars fired every employee who drove those fast cars fast, then there would be no employees at the fast car manufacturer.

My girlfriend got to go for a test ride in a Veyron, and he had it over 100 MPH before the top of the on ramp. Fast doesn't equal dangerous, even on public roadways.

If they were being dangerous, then that's another story.


Every auto manufacturer either uses their own test tracks, rents tracks from other manufacturers or rents road courses/circle tracks for high speed testing. There is NO reason to be driving the speeds they were on public surface streets.

It would be bad enough if they were on the interstate driving those speeds, but they were on surface streets where it’s much more likely for an innocent driver to be killed/injured.

Like shovelhead stated, these guys should be updating their resume’s.


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If every manufacturer of fast cars fired every employee who drove those fast cars fast, then there would be no employees at the fast car manufacturer.

My girlfriend got to go for a test ride in a Veyron, and he had it over 100 MPH before the top of the on ramp. Fast doesn't equal dangerous, even on public roadways.

If they were being dangerous, then that's another story.


Every auto manufacturer either uses their own test tracks, rents tracks from other manufacturers or rents road courses/circle tracks for high speed testing. There is NO reason to be driving the speeds they were on public surface streets.

It would be bad enough if they were on the interstate driving those speeds, but they were on surface streets where it’s much more likely for an innocent driver to be killed/injured.

Like shovelhead stated, these guys should be updating their resume’s.


Do you happen to know exactly which road they were speeding on or the circumstances?

Bowling Green is not exactly a big, busy, city. It's small town USA. Chances are these guys were probably on some back road with no side streets and no houses near the street having a little fun. While I am not condoning their behavior, I cannot say that I didn't do the same exact thing when I was their age. I'm pretty sure half of the guys in this thread that ever owned a fast car or bike at 30 years old or under, probably did the same thing at that age.
 
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If every manufacturer of fast cars fired every employee who drove those fast cars fast, then there would be no employees at the fast car manufacturer.

My girlfriend got to go for a test ride in a Veyron, and he had it over 100 MPH before the top of the on ramp. Fast doesn't equal dangerous, even on public roadways.

If they were being dangerous, then that's another story.


Every auto manufacturer either uses their own test tracks, rents tracks from other manufacturers or rents road courses/circle tracks for high speed testing. There is NO reason to be driving the speeds they were on public surface streets.

It would be bad enough if they were on the interstate driving those speeds, but they were on surface streets where it’s much more likely for an innocent driver to be killed/injured.

Like shovelhead stated, these guys should be updating their resume’s.


Do you happen to know exactly which road they were speeding on or the circumstances?

Bowling Green is not exactly a big, busy, city. It's small town USA. Chances are these guys were probably on some back road with no side streets and no houses near the street having a little fun. While I am not condoning their behavior, I cannot say that I didn't do the same exact thing when I was their age. I'm pretty sure half of the guys in this thread that ever owned a fast car or bike at 30 years old or under, probably did the same thing at that age.


Did you even read the article? I need to put you back on ignore. Geesh.


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There is NO reason to be driving the speeds they were on public surface streets.



There are plenty of reasons. They wanted to was a reason. They could is another reason. They wanted to see which was faster, also a reason.

Why doesn't the government just govern cars to max out at 60 or 70? Do police cars go 100 MPH? Why? No reason they need to go "that fast". Heck, I'm pretty sure a Prius will go over 100, but what's the point?


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It would be bad enough if they were on the interstate driving those speeds, but they were on surface streets where it’s much more likely for an innocent driver to be killed/injured.


Yet they didn't even manage to kill themselves. Must have been some sort of miracle that once they hit 100 MPH a black hole didn't form and swallow the entire city!


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Do you happen to know exactly which road they were speeding on or the circumstances?


No he doesn't. Big Grin

All of that said, they broke the law and should face the consequences. But let's not act like a skilled driver running 100 MPH is such a horrible thing. There are times and places, even in public, where this is entirely safe (including surface streets and interstates).

Heck, I drive my Ram 4500 work truck at 85 on some highways. Just think....only 15 MPH short of killing everybody!


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There is NO reason to be driving the speeds they were on public surface streets.



There are plenty of reasons. They wanted to was a reason. They could is another reason. They wanted to see which was faster, also a reason.

Why doesn't the government just govern cars to max out at 60 or 70? Do police cars go 100 MPH? Why? No reason they need to go "that fast". Heck, I'm pretty sure a Prius will go over 100, but what's the point?


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It would be bad enough if they were on the interstate driving those speeds, but they were on surface streets where it’s much more likely for an innocent driver to be killed/injured.


Yet they didn't even manage to kill themselves. Must have been some sort of miracle that once they hit 100 MPH a black hole didn't form and swallow the entire city!


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Do you happen to know exactly which road they were speeding on or the circumstances?


No he doesn't. Big Grin

All of that said, they broke the law and should face the consequences. But let's not act like a skilled driver running 100 MPH is such a horrible thing. There are times and places, even in public, where this is entirely safe (including surface streets and interstates).

Heck, I drive my Ram 4500 work truck at 85 on some highways. Just think....only 15 MPH short of killing everybody!


Are you and Jimmy related? If you can’t see anything wrong with doing 120 in a 45 then I’m not going to try to convince you.


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Are you and Jimmy related?



Not that I'm aware of.


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Did you even read the article? I need to put you back on ignore. Geesh.


I did and I even mapquested lover's lane in Bowling Green, KY with a satellite view. It's a relatively short (2-3 mile long) road that has a section that borders a small regional airport, this is the only logical place these boys could drag race and do 100-120mph on that street, the rest has curves. That section of road doesn't have any side roads and is straight. Again the road looks to be only 2-3 miles long. You can get to 100 mph from a dead stop in a new corvette in about 10 seconds. I think they should be given the death penalty for doing 100-120 mph on a rural city street, bordering an airport. Big Grin Maaaaaaayybe they wanted to get off of lover's lane as quick as possible before someone they knew saw them driving matching his and hers corvettes?

Here's the satellite image.
https://www.mapquest.com/searc...8009071350097&page=0
 
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It's also a 5 lane undivided road, and from the point they were observed turning onto the road, and the point at which they were stopped was less than 1 mile.


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We get it, some folks think it's justification for chopping the balls off the engineers, removing their desire to screw, raid the fridge, have offspring and drive fast cars fast on roads that are not marked fast driving....

Heard that a Boxster S will hit 155 easily, that a 86 Vette with a 150 shot of NOS will outrun a Viper in the 1/8 mile, and smoke a supercharged Mustang on the street, and that a 124 cui Harley Heritage will pull hard enough to fustrate most crotch rocket riders when a fat white man with a cigar is on it...
 
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Having driven 100+ mph on surface streets on several occasions in the last 18 years in the course of my duties,

Fuck that. It’s all fun and games and chest pumping until someone dies, gets severely injured, or your friend gets indicted for one or both. Seen it. F that.

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Shenanigans like this does happen in the auto industry world, but what makes this case different is a) they got caught, b) they got ticketed (not sent on their way with a warning from a friendly cop) and c) it made national news, embarrassing the company they work for. It's that combination that makes it a career-limiting incident for them.
 
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This is stupid. But I admire that they did it in the first place. I worry that in a future surveillance State that we would never see this kind of story. That is where we are headed.
 
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Another article I read said alcohol may have been involved, and if true, that's another thing all together. It didn't appear that any of the charges were alcohol related.

1 mile. 0-100 to stop. These guys weren't drag racing all over town, it was a 35 second event.


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Of the two, I believe the Canuck is in the worst trouble. Besides going even faster (120 vs 100) than the American, there could be knock-on effects to his ability to work and drive in the States.

Might want to re-read the article. He was the slower of the two.



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Mark Derkatz, 30, of Winsdor, Ontario
Of the two, I believe the Canuck is in the worst trouble. Besides going even faster (120 vs 100) than the American, there could be knock-on effects to his ability to work and drive in the States.

Might want to re-read the article. He was the slower of the two.
That makes more sense. Americans are at least 20% better than Canadians Wink



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