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New Zealand’s new weapons ban/ Fox News
March 22, 2019, 12:51 PM
corsairNew Zealand’s new weapons ban/ Fox News
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Originally posted by bigwagon:
If the leftists try that tactic here they will find out the hard way just how unique and different the circumstances of the founding of our nation make us from these countries that still pay lip service to the concept of any power emanating from a King or Queen.
You're confusing an absolute monarchy (which is all but extinct) with what NZ operates as, which is a parliamentary democracy that is without a constitution.
The parliamentary system allows for the majority to rule, and without a constitution, the checks with which the govt powers can be reigned-in, is at the mercy of the people and its representatives in the opposition.
March 22, 2019, 01:01 PM
tuumunzOriginally posted by Sig2340:
1 always heed paras advice.
What does para mean by long magazine tube??
A kings loading gate?
Follow in the src and 7 shot revolver..
Follow on the bolt action 308 or 30-06,what caliber in that revolver??
thanks for advice para
In keeping with Para's "buy now" admonition, I submit that everyone consider some additions to the gun collection:
- A long magazine tube, King's loading gate, lever action rifle with a revolver in the same chambering.
- A telescopically sighted, bolt action rifle in a chambering greater than .24 caliber and a revolver.
Never hurts to add guns to the collection.
March 22, 2019, 07:02 PM
bigwagonquote:
Originally posted by corsair:
quote:
Originally posted by bigwagon:
If the leftists try that tactic here they will find out the hard way just how unique and different the circumstances of the founding of our nation make us from these countries that still pay lip service to the concept of any power emanating from a King or Queen.
You're confusing an absolute monarchy (which is all but extinct) with what NZ operates as, which is a parliamentary democracy that is without a constitution.
The parliamentary system allows for the majority to rule, and without a constitution, the checks with which the govt powers can be reigned-in, is at the mercy of the people and its representatives in the opposition.
I know how their gov't works, and that's not my point. The point is that these countries weren't founded by a revolution and they don't have constitutions with anything resembling a 2nd Amendment, which was included in ours for that very reason. Gun ownership in NZ is a "privilege," for crissake.
March 22, 2019, 08:04 PM
RHINOWSOYes, NZ has pretty much nothing in common with the USA.
5M people on an island, still beholden to a Queen in England.
10,000 people in the armed forces, total. No combat air force to speak of, 2 destroyer Navy, and 100 armored vehicles. Not tanks, just armored vehicles. A single US Carrier Battle Group and attached MEU has more combat power than the entire country and could subjugate it with little difficulty.
Beautiful country that has had the luxury of never really having to worry about invaders.
March 22, 2019, 08:08 PM
RHINOWSOI mean check out this title from the NZ Herald
Destroy it now - accused gunman's manifesto banned by Chief Censor
"A manifesto believed to have been written by the alleged Christchurch gunman has been officially classified as objectional and banned, the Office of Film & Literature Classification has confirmed.
Chief censor David Shanks confirmed the move on Saturday, urging anyone who had copies of it to destroy them.
It is now an offence, with Shanks describing the document as "a crude booklet that promotes murder and terrorism"."https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/...=1&objectid=12215523March 23, 2019, 06:14 PM
Belgian Bluequote:
Originally posted by tuumunz:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
1 always heed paras advice.
What does para mean by long magazine tube??
A kings loading gate?
Follow in the src and 7 shot revolver..
Follow on the bolt action 308 or 30-06,what caliber in that revolver??
thanks for advice para
In keeping with Para's "buy now" admonition, I submit that everyone consider some additions to the gun collection:
- A long magazine tube, King's loading gate, lever action rifle with a revolver in the same chambering.
- A telescopically sighted, bolt action rifle in a chambering greater than .24 caliber and a revolver.
Never hurts to add guns to the collection.
I took Para's advice too... Just ordered a dozen OKAY Surfeed magazines. I'm halfway tempted to order either a 6920 14.5" HBPW, or go hole hog and get the New Zealand issue LMT rifle:
https://lmtdefense.com/firearms/nz-mars-lBut it's crazy expensive @ $2699 and has a crazy sideways mounted bayonet lug.
March 23, 2019, 08:48 PM
cjevansquote:
Originally posted by bigwagon:
Gun ownership in NZ is a "privilege," for crissake.
As in Australia, gun ownership in NZ is a privilege, not a right. The laws and regulations that govern ownership make it so.
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bigdealquote:
Originally posted by cjevans:
quote:
Originally posted by bigwagon:
Gun ownership in NZ is a "privilege," for crissake.
As in Australia, gun ownership in NZ is a privilege, not a right. The laws and regulations that govern ownership make it so.
Which reflects just how brilliant our founders approach was to the issue. Recognize rights in the constitution as being inalienable and god given and not subject to government infringement (supposedly). They knew when government grants rights, they can also take them away. Those old guys in white wigs were rather sharp to put it mildly.
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March 24, 2019, 05:26 PM
KevinCWquote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Yes, NZ has pretty much nothing in common with the USA.
5M people on an island, still beholden to a Queen in England.
10,000 people in the armed forces, total. No combat air force to speak of, 2 destroyer Navy, and 100 armored vehicles. Not tanks, just armored vehicles. A single US Carrier Battle Group and attached MEU has more combat power than the entire country and could subjugate it with little difficulty.
Beautiful country that has had the luxury of never really having to worry about invaders.
I think the membership of this forum could wield more combat power....
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stickman428RHINO, the idiots in the NZ government don’t want their citizens to read it because if they did they would realize their government is doing what he wanted them to do. Ironically, it was probably censorship that radicalized the gunman to a certain degree.
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June 09, 2019, 09:46 PM
lbjHa! New Zealanders are not turning in their guns after their government banned almost of them.
I have seen some articles that say the government thinks firearm owners are waiting to find out how much money the goverment will give them for them.
That's quite an excuse.
https://www.libertynation.com/...t-say-no-to-gun-ban/
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June 09, 2019, 10:16 PM
airsoft guyImagine that, refusing to be punished for the actions of another.
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June 09, 2019, 10:29 PM
FenderBenderquote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
I mean check out this title from the NZ Herald
Destroy it now - accused gunman's manifesto banned by Chief Censor
"A manifesto believed to have been written by the alleged Christchurch gunman has been officially classified as objectional and banned, the Office of Film & Literature Classification has confirmed.
Chief censor David Shanks confirmed the move on Saturday, urging anyone who had copies of it to destroy them.
It is now an offence, with Shanks describing the document as "a crude booklet that promotes murder and terrorism"."https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/...=1&objectid=12215523
this fills me with a powerful rage.
June 10, 2019, 05:23 AM
gearhoundsquote:
Originally posted by lbj:
Ha! New Zealanders are not turning in their guns after their government banned almost of them.
I have seen some articles that say the government thinks firearm owners are waiting to find out how much money the goverment will give them for them.
That's quite an excuse.
https://www.libertynation.com/...t-say-no-to-gun-ban/
Now imagine the lefts apoplexy in the US where the right to bear arms is guaranteed by our constitution if a similar mandate was made.
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kramdenNo logic, just PC.
June 10, 2019, 10:26 AM
darthfusterIt occured to me this is a little like the movie Seven. Evil guy does an evil act to elicit a desired reaction knowing the proclivities of his target......and the target reacts as predicted.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier June 10, 2019, 10:32 AM
P220 SmudgePretty much, yeah. He knew what the reactions would be, it’s all there in his manifesto that they absolutely don’t want anyone reading.
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