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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...t-voicemail-n2345166

Rep. Jason Chaffetz shared a death threat he received with Fox News Thursday in which a man left a voicemail on his office phone saying he was going to “hang [Chaffetz] from a lamppost.”

"Hey Jason Chaffetz—I suggest you prepare for the battle, motherf***er, and the apocalypse," the man yelled. "Because we are going to hunt your ass down, wrap a rope around your neck, and hang you from a lamppost!"

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While the caller has since been arrested (only because he left two messages), Chaffetz explained that lawmakers deal with threats like these regularly without prosecution. He recalled another time someone threatened to slit his throat.

In the wake of GOP lawmakers coming under attack in Alexandria, Virginia during a practice for the congressional baseball game, the Utah Republican said more needs to be done to protect lawmakers.

"I've got stacks and mounds of written threats that people put their names to, send us emails, but again they don't get prosecuted," he said. "There's gotta be a way to better protect members of Congress."

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why shouldn't people who threaten to kill lawmakers get prosecuted ?

BTW Chaffetz to leave congress on 30 June 2017
 
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"There's gotta be a way to better protect members of Congress."



Post the text of the threat, their names, and addresses in a public forum. Surely somebody will take care of it.


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Political speech likely protected by the First Amendment.

Now, if there is evidence of an act to carry out the threat, contemporaneous or after the threat is communicated, then you've got something.

We have expressions proposing violence to various office holders and seekers routinely here, so far merely blowing off steam and frustration.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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why shouldn't people who threaten to kill lawmakers get prosecuted ?
Why shouldn't people who threaten to kill citizens get prosecuted? No special laws or treatment for Congressional Critters.



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I think it was Rep. Mia Love, also from Utah, who had someone driving by her house taking pictures of her kids or something.

When youre in the spotlight, its crazies on both sides - lovers and haters - who contact you, stalk you, threaten you, etc.

Unfortunately it doesnt really surprise me that few get prosecuted though...



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why shouldn't people who threaten to kill lawmakers get prosecuted ?
Why shouldn't people who threaten to kill citizens get prosecuted? No special laws or treatment for Congressional Critters.


^Word. Now I can see them pushing a bill so that any Con-gress Critter can request a taxpayer funded 24/7 security detail. But the vast unwashed have to get around DC on their own.


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It is illegal to threaten anyone with violence. That is not "political speech." Quite often, those threatening private citizens are prosecuted. The problem is, those threatening Congress are often NOT prosecuted, or even investigated, unless it's a repeat offense. Congressmen should not get special privilege, neither should they get LESS than a private citizen.
 
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Threats of Violence Against Individuals.—The Supreme Court has cited three “reasons why threats of violence are outside the First Amendment”: “protecting individuals from the fear of violence, from the disruption that fear engenders, and from the possibility that the threatened violence will occur.”980 In Watts v. United States, however, the Court held that only “true” threats are outside the First Amendment.981 The defendant in Watts, at a public rally at which he was expressing his opposition to the military draft, said, “If they ever make me carry a rifle, the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.”982 He was convicted of violating a federal statute that prohibited “any threat to take the life of or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States.” The Supreme Court reversed. Interpreting the statute “with the commands of the First Amendment clearly in mind,”983 it found that the defendant had not made a “true ‘threat,”’ but had indulged in mere “political hyperbole.”984

In NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., white merchants in Claiborne County, Mississippi, sued the NAACP to recover losses caused by a boycott by black citizens of their businesses, and to enjoin future boycott activity.985 During the course of the boycott, NAACP Field Secretary Charles Evers had told an audience of “black people that any ‘uncle toms’ who broke the boycott would ‘have their necks broken’ by their own people.”986 The Court acknowledged that this language “might have been understood as inviting an unlawful form of discipline or, at least, as intending to create a fear of violence ....”987 Yet, no violence had followed directly from Evers’ speeches, and the Court found that Evers’ “emotionally charged rhetoric . . . did not transcend the bounds of protected speech set forth in Brandenburg… An advocate must be free to stimulate his audience with spontaneous and emotional appeals for unity and action in a common cause. When such appeals do not incite lawless action, they must be regarded as protected speech.”988 While holding that, under Bradenburg, Evers’ speech did not constitute unprotected incitement of lawless action,989 the Court also cited Watts, thereby implying that Evers’ speech also did not constitute a “true threat.”990

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Perhaps we should do a FOIA and post the names and addresses of these constitutionally protected people on the internet. Nothing illegal about that.

I personally don't give a rats ass about what SCOTUS ruled. It is only enforced when it is threats against those not in a protected class. If it were threats against Polosi we'd be hearing all kinds of shit in the MSM about violent alt-right terrorists. Funny that both the cases "protected" were lefty causes, and the lefties threatening violence. As usual.




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