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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
As I recall from some years ago, the average life cycle of nations is about 220 years. They go through a cycle of several steps. 1. From bondage to spiritual growth 2. From spiritual growth to great courage 3. From courage to liberty 4. From liberty to abundance 5. From abundance to complacency 6. From complacency to apathy 7. From apathy to dependence 8. From dependence back to bondage So, where are we in this cycle? Seems to me that given the huge number of people on all forms of government support/welfare we are rapidly approaching stage 7. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | ||
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Well, I'm not sure where we are on the list. I am pretty sure though that if we did suffer under the rule of a tyrant nation as we did, this current populace would not rise up and sacrifice whatever was necessary to build a new nation. To further that point, there is a meme out there concerning Central and South American migrants. It basically says if it's so bad down there, fix it like we did. The problem I see though is that "WE" didn't fix anything. Our predecessors did. Some lived some died but none of us did. (I'm not talking about war in general but the Revolutionary War specifically). People don't have the stomach today to loose caramel machiatto's and instant entertainment and personal property and blah blah blah. All of which potentially would be lost in a bid to separate from a tyrannical rule. | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
Given a choice between liberty and air conditioning, I bet 75% or more of the citizens of this country would pick air conditioning. | |||
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Not to be the voice of doom.... but 7. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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| That's just the Flomax talking  |
I think we are between complacency and apathy. The American population is just plain spoiled. We want all of the toys but are unwilling to pay for the necessities like good roads, safe bridges, clean environment, etc. | |||
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| Purveyor of Fine Avatars  |
At least 5 but not a solid 6. "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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Depending on the social metric we look at, somewhere on the road from 5 - 7. | |||
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| If you're gonna be a bear, be a Grizzly!  |
I told my wife yesterday that I'm glad I won't be around to see where our nation is in 50 years or so. I believe we're at about 6 on this scale, maybe 7. Close to a tipping point, at any rate. Here's to the sunny slopes of long ago. | |||
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| That's just the Flomax talking |
Not that it matters, anyway, because the whole friggin' planet is doomed. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Between 6 and 7, no doubt about it. Q | |||
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