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Originally posted by DaBigBR:
It sounds like a good educational opportunity to me. Not the "things would have gotten ugly" tough guy shit that is most of this thread, but a "hey, on a high end gun like that, letting the slide slam home on an empty chamber can effect the ignition." Like it or not, not everybody that works in a gun store is a huge and all knowing gun person, and a little bit of education can go a long way. Definitely farther than leading with an ass chewing.

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Originally posted by egregore:
A serious breach of etiquette that I would also have taken umbrage to, but don't tell me a couple of "slide slams" did anything to that gun that a 20,000 psi breech explosion could not.

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Originally posted by dkjbama:

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Originally posted by egregore:
A serious breach of etiquette that I would also have taken umbrage to, but don't tell me a couple of "slide slams" did anything to that gun that a 20,000 psi breech explosion could not.

Respectfully, on a 1911, damage to the slide or barrel are not the concern when dropping the slide on an empty chamber. BUT, 1911's are special. On a tuned 1911, dropping the slide on an empty chamber also causes the hammer to hit the sear at an accelerated speed which can cause damage the the perfect trigger pull he paid for. It can bang up the engagement surface of the sear.

When the gun is loaded and cycles during firing, the forward slide speed is attenuated by the force necessary to load the cartridge so there is no damage to the hammer and sear.

THAT's why you never drop the slide on an empty 1911. If it were my new gun, I would be very perturbed. I'd be so tempted to tell the clown to go finger-fuck his own guns and leave mine the hell alone.

EDIT TO ADD: At any LGS, aside from the standard safety check, I always ask permission before manipulating the action or dry firing one of their guns. I expect the same courtesy from them on one of mine.

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Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
His education should already have reached this basic level if he is to be behind a gun counter handling expensive hardware. Plus, it's not our job to educate him; its the boss's.

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Originally posted by dkjbama:

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Originally posted by egregore:
A serious breach of etiquette that I would also have taken umbrage to, but don't tell me a couple of "slide slams" did anything to that gun that a 20,000 psi breech explosion could not.

Respectfully, on a 1911, damage to the slide or barrel are not the concern when dropping the slide on an empty chamber. BUT, 1911's are special. On a tuned 1911, dropping the slide on an empty chamber also causes the hammer to hit the sear at an accelerated speed which can cause damage the the perfect trigger pull he paid for. It can bang up the engagement surface of the sear.

When the gun is loaded and cycles during firing, the forward slide speed is attenuated by the force necessary to load the cartridge so there is no damage to the hammer and sear.

THAT's why you never drop the slide on an empty 1911. If it were my new gun, I would be very perturbed. I'd be so tempted to tell the clown to go finger-fuck his own guns and leave mine the hell alone.

EDIT TO ADD: At any LGS, aside from the standard safety check, I always ask permission before manipulating the action or dry firing one of their guns. I expect the same courtesy from them on one of mine.