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Appliance energy saving features that work against us.
July 17, 2023, 02:49 PM
frayedendsAppliance energy saving features that work against us.
For instance, when the refrigerator door doesn't close all the way, instead of wasting energy by cooling with an open door, it shuts off. If you miss it you get spoiled food instead of $1.23 higher electric bill.
Next is the broilers in the oven won't stay on with the door open. What the heck, that's how we always used the broiler growing up. That way you can sear without overcooking. But nope, not now. Open door, flame goes off.
These go to eleven.
July 17, 2023, 02:58 PM
PykerLow flush toilets - just mean you have to flush 'in motion' so using twice (or 3 times) the water.
Flow restrictors on showers - either you take them out and throw them away (causing plastic waste) or you shower three times as long.
July 17, 2023, 03:02 PM
RogueJSKOh, I absolutely cannot stand shower head flow restrictors. Those are always immediately removed upon unboxing.
The shower is my happy place where I go to relax and wash away the troubles of the day. I want to be fully soaked and prefer my showers to be high enough pressure to damn near peel the skin off my bones. I'm more than willing to pay the extra couple of bucks per month in additional water costs to make it so.
(My entire monthly water bill is around $20 - less than 1 cent per gallon used - so the cost savings of a flow restrictor are negligible.)
Hell, I have
two shower heads in my shower, neither of which have flow restrictors. So I'm using even that much more water!
July 17, 2023, 03:23 PM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by Pyker:
Low flush toilets - just mean you have to flush 'in motion' so using twice (or 3 times) the water.
Flow restrictors on showers - either you take them out and throw them away (causing plastic waste) or you shower three times as long.
Checking for this when I get home. Probably the 1 thing I miss most from our old house. Could just about peel paint with our shower there.
The Enemy's gate is down. July 17, 2023, 03:57 PM
Patrick-SP2022quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Oh, I absolutely cannot stand shower head flow restrictors. ...
July 17, 2023, 04:54 PM
nhracecraftquote:
Originally posted by frayedends:
Next is the broilers in the oven won't stay on with the door open. What the heck, that's how we always used the broiler growing up. That way you can sear without overcooking. But nope, not now. Open door, flame goes off.
Pure speculation here, but the open door on a gas oven thing 'could' be a safety regulation requirement from the CPSC (or some other useless .gov entity!), to potentially to dissuade from and/or pretty much make it impossible to use the oven for supplemental heat in your domicile.
It's for your protection...

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July 17, 2023, 05:00 PM
konata88LOL - I have an interlock button on my new coffee maker that is just begging for some duct tape.

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Anushquote:
Low flush toilets - just mean you have to flush 'in motion' so using twice (or 3 times) the water.
Flow restrictors on showers - either you take them out and throw them away (causing plastic waste) or you shower three times as long.
I replaced all the faucets in home with Moen. I found the aerator had a removable 1/4" restrictor. Now I can wash my hands twice as fast.
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July 17, 2023, 06:50 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by Patrick-SP2022:
[Seinfeld clip]
That's about right. Could probably still use a bit more PSI, though.

July 17, 2023, 07:06 PM
MelissaDallasA two-hour “whitest whites” cycle on my high-efficiency front-load washer. My old regular washer used to get whites brilliantly white in a regular 30 minute or so cycle with Tide with Bleach.
July 17, 2023, 07:31 PM
vthokyquote:
Originally posted by Pyker:
Flow restrictors on showers - either you take them out and throw them away (causing plastic waste) or you shower three times as long.
Take 'em out and toss 'em in the fireplace! You get some really pretty colors in the flames for a few seconds.

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sourdough44On a similar note, how about those smaller squares on a roll of paper towel? Now you just need to leave 2-3 combined to do the job of one previously.
July 18, 2023, 06:41 AM
sigcrazy7I would think that the oven’s open door sensor could easily be bypassed.
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P250UA5I owe Pyker & Rogue a beer.
Massive difference in shower pressure with the tiny o-ring removed.
The Enemy's gate is down. July 18, 2023, 08:21 AM
tatortoddEnergy efficient dishwasher is 4 hours to do a load of dishes. That's just clean, and the dishes are still wet at the 4 hour mark.
When I move, I run everything practicable in the kitchen through the dishwasher (who knows what disgusting things movers do to stuff when I'm not looking) and the normal 2 hours meant a clean and functional kitchen in 1 weekend. The 4 hour cycle really drug out getting my kitchen set-up and I was really craving home cooked meals after eating out exclusively for weeks while moving from Canada to Houston .
On a day to day impact, can't run a load after breakfast, have dry dishes returned to their place, and put dirty dishes from lunch. Same thing goes with the time between lunch and dinner.
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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. July 18, 2023, 08:59 AM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
Energy efficient dishwasher is 4 hours to do a load of dishes. That's just clean, and the dishes are still wet at the 4 hour mark.
When I move, I run everything practicable in the kitchen through the dishwasher (who knows what disgusting things movers do to stuff when I'm not looking) and the normal 2 hours meant a clean and functional kitchen in 1 weekend. The 4 hour cycle really drug out getting my kitchen set-up and I was really craving home cooked meals after eating out exclusively for weeks while moving from Canada to Houston .
On a day to day impact, can't run a load after breakfast, have dry dishes returned to their place, and put dirty dishes from lunch. Same thing goes with the time between lunch and dinner.
Yep, that's why we run ours overnight. Usually just anything that can retain water is wet.
Not a huge fan of our LG dw, but it's a lot better than the Frigidaire we had in our old house.
The Enemy's gate is down. July 18, 2023, 09:38 AM
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הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים July 18, 2023, 10:46 AM
YooperSigsFortunately, all my appliances are old tech and my crapper / shower is too.
But dont get me started (

) on the "auto stop / start" feature on my new Jeep!

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July 18, 2023, 11:05 AM
V-Tailquote:
But dont get me started on the "auto stop / start" feature on my new Jeep
My hand moves on autopilot when I start my Escape. The buttons that I tap on engine start are close to each other on the center console, so it's tap the parking brake release, double tap the mode selector to change the transmission from "normal" to "economy," and tap the auto stop / start control to turn it off.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים July 18, 2023, 11:08 AM
selogicI used to travel a lot for work . Usually three nights in the same room . I bought a cheap showerhead at Walmart and removed the flow restrictor . I also kept a pair of 8" Channel locks in my bag .I would swap the shower head when I checked in and change it back when I left .
