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Master of one hand pistol shooting |
Few years ago after phone purchases in the AM to Midway and Brownells. That evening CC people cancel card due to attempted purchases in FL and RI. Coincidence? Little more recently after a paypal purchase, two Lyft rides use my card for taxi service. Just now after an online purchase to Volquartsen, someone back east attempts $3100 charges. My card people have always done me good on these. It is a permanent card limit of 1000 for just this reason. But the dam hassle sucks. SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | ||
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His Royal Hiney |
It sounds about average frequency. Not much you can do about it. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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I got hit about every 6 months to a year, so new rules; 1) Debt card only used at Publix, Krogers & Walmart. 2) One credit card used for on line purchases 3) One credit card for Airlines only 4) A third credit card for Hotels 5) Cash for all other purchases __________________________________________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit! Sigs Owned - A Bunch | |||
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thin skin can't win |
Other than #1, what exactly does that accomplish in terms of reducing risk of card number being hacked/guessed/mined? Looks like it increases the odds 400%. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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Cruising the Highway to Hell |
For me the Debit card is only used at the bank that issued it's ATM. It is Never used to purchase anything. I learned a lesson there when it's number was stolen and had to wait a month for the investigation to get my money back. “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ― Ronald Reagan Retired old fart | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
If you think that using your credit / debit card for online purchases is responsible for fraud, here is a good way to limit that exposure: Many banks that issue cards, now support “virtual cards.” Here’s how that works, if your bank offers this feature. My Capital One MasterCard does offer this, and I use it. When I make an online purchase, I use the virtual card feature to generate a virtual card for that particular vendor. I’ll use Midway USA for this example. This virtual card has the necessary attributes for an online purchase: card number, CCV number, and expiration date. The card number and CCV number are unique. I now have a new credit card. All charges to this card are actually charged to my real Capital One MasterCard, and I have a few forms of protection:
I use 1Password as a password manager. Not only does it keep track of all my various logins, it also has a section to track credit cards, so I record my virtual card numbers there, where they are easy to find when I need them. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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A Grateful American |
It actually reduces exposure to larger losses. And the "odds" are a bit more tricky to calculate, but it is still less using more cards. A really bad analogy, but sort of like playing Russian Roulette with multiple revolvers in a single session. (That was going to be Deer Hunter 2, but Walken started Bleeden.) If a debit card is compromised, one could potentially lose everything in that account and suffer overdraft losses if one has that tied to that account. Credit cards, typically have a limit of liability for fraudulent charges. FWIW, I have all my accounts tied to SMS notification to my phone, so anytime anything touches the card, I get a notification. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
I'd take it one step further....NEVER get a Debit card! A compromised Debit Card means someone can empty your Bank Account! You may not be liable for it in the end (AFTER the 'Investigation'), but you'll likely be without access to your funds for some time, which are GONE at that point anyway! If this happens while you're traveling you're screwed! Further, when using a Debit Card for certain purchases such as Restaurants, Hotels, Rental Car, etc (where the could be multiple incidental charges, recurring charges and/or tips potentially added to the bill), a large 'Temporary Authorization' is imposed on your account that locks up funds until the finalized debit charge 'posts' to your account, which is a few days AFTER the transaction! I forced my bank to provide me with an ATM Card, and I only use it at my bank....And if that's lost or stolen I'm not out any money! As long as you're financially responsible a Credit Card is definitely a better choice! If my Credit Card is stolen/compromised, I have zero liability and at that point I can use a secondary card until it's replaced....And again, I'm not out ANY money! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Yes, I also got hacked after an online purchase. It is damn annoying. New app downloaded to my phone = Skimmer scanner . I filled up at a local BJ's Wholesale each time I was hacked. Now I will scan for a "skimmer" at the pump. | |||
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thin skin can't win |
My bad for lack of clarity. I wasn't meaning to use a debit card for anything other than groceries, etc. Even that doesn't really protect since the numbers get mined without anything as sophisticated as skimmers and such I think. I meant why bother with more than one credit card? Losses are limited to $50 on most prior to reporting and none after that, and most cards just reverse it all. More cards equals more numbers to be guessed/hacked/stolen from some database. More cards equals more $50 exposures. But my likely exposure is $0 whether I have 1 or 50 cards. More cards equals more hassle. I like the idea of an ATM only card to remove the issue of debit cards. Currently I have only two credit cards, and only reason for that is AMEX vs VISA sites coupled with having a backup if on a trip and one gets hacked while the replacement is in route. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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How does this work? Curious. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
Not sure what you're asking. Are you asking how a skimmer works? Or are you asking how a skimmer scanner works? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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I was issued a Debit card and have never used it. ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
I don't know what some of y'all are doing, but we've never had a problem to that degree with on-line purchasing. I buy a lot of stuff on-line. Gun supply and ammo stores, Amazon, Best Buy, Home Depot. The list goes on. I use PayPal and have for (checking...) eighteen years. Heck, I even used one of my cards for an on-line purchase from an on-line electronics retailer in Europe, when we were there, to acquire a "thank you" gift for the relatives that gave us a place to stay. <knock on wood>, but the only time our cards have been 0wn3d was via card terminals in local use (Target, Home Depot). "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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