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That's the thing, for something that actually has no firm basis in reality, people get very critical. If you had asked me 10 years ago even what was the standard in tipping I would have said 15% off the pre tax amount for service, ie no tipping the clown at the coffee counter for pouring and handing me a cup. Nowadays, 15% and some people think you hate the poors and need a public whipping. lol Plus you get to tip basically everybody now. Lots of things could have happened with that young lady. If I had a crisp 100 dollar bill riding on it, my bet is she knew exactly what she did and she did it purposely. Like I said before, I think this isn't uncommon nowadays. My buddy leaves tips in the hotel rooms for the cleaning lady. I think that is nice but I also think it's a bit nutty. It's like tipping for the next guy in line. Not my monkey though so whatever. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
This right there tells me it was an honest mistake on her part. As you said, you "could/should have inquired with Sara" right there... Q | |||
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Quit staring at my wife's Butt |
it's 92 cents let it go, next time have more chips and salsa to make up for it.  | |||
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| Eye on the Silver Lining |
I’ve definitely been misled by the waitstaff (regarding tipping policies and the new in house percentage tacked on to a lot of bills) and as a result way overtipped, but if I was shortchanged, I’d immediately ask for a review of the bill with the waitress. We’d have a math lesson on the spot, and I’d count out the change the way I was taught. I don’t work behind the counter at all anymore, but I can’t remember how many times in the last decade I was thanked for counting change back to people. Too many have been stiffed by kids that weren’t taught how to count change. I know that’s not feasible for a waitperson running 10 tables, but things would have to slow down for a minute or two if that happened to me. I’d say it was an honest mistake. Naturally I’d be watching Sarah more closely in the future, though. __________________________ "Trust, but verify." | |||
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The guy at the local pizza place shortchanged me one day. So I did it to him the next time I was in there. I always get my change now. | |||
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| Min-Chin-Chu-Ru... Speed with Glare |
Slightly off topic, the only decent Chinese restaurant in my area announced they were adding a 50% surcharge to all checks during Christmas Eve and Christmas day. Sigh... another example of surging anti-Semitism... | |||
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| No, not like Bill Clinton  |
Probably a mistake I met a lady at Longhorn for a first meet/date kinda thing. I think our bill was in the $45 range, all I had was a $100 bill to pay. We talked a good long time and the server never brought my change back, after about 30 minutes I tracked her down and asked for my change. She said she thought I meant for her to keep it. Uhhh, no. No tip | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
I love that one. Your bill is $10 and you have a $20 and they ask “do you need change?” Ummm, yes. I’m not giving you a 50% tip! | |||
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| Angry Korean with a Dark Soul  |
Not wanting to be *that* guy, but that's a 100% tip. | |||
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$10 tip on a $10 check is a 100% tip... To all the anti 4% credit card fee diners what would you have the restaurant do? Increase the cost of everything so the CC fee is priced into the menu so the diners who pay cash are penalized? Restaurants/Businesses who eat the credit card fee did it as a courtesy during a time when there wasn't record inflation. I don't know a single private seller online who doesn't add at least 3% for CC/online payment surcharges that they incur. The same goes for every one of my LGS. Cash gets the offered price, CC is a 3-5% surcharge. Most credit cards offer 2-5% cashback so the fee is a wash in most cases. Another thing: the wait staff does not change restaurant policy. If you think taking your frustration about the CC fee on them is going to change the policy I'll save you the suspense: management doesn't care. Management are the ones who agreed to charge the CC fee and we all know how management takes to the tail wagging the dog. If you have an issue with the fee, take it to the owner manager. Don't passive aggressively punish the wait staff who has zero control or authority about such things. | |||
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| אַרְיֵה |
How 'bout increasing the menu prices to cover credit card fee, then offer a cash discount? That would cover everything, and make the cash customers happy, without explicitly penalizing the credit card customers. End result is the same in terms of $$ to the restaurant, but maybe a little better re customer relations. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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They could but I'll tell you why wouldn't if I were a restaurant/business: Psychology. There's something about keeping number to the left of the decimal as low as possible. That's why a $10 sandwich is $9.99 instead of $10.00. A gallon of gas is 2.99 and 9/10ths vs $3.00. Add 4% to the menu price and now that sandwich is $10.40 vs $9.99. Most people don't read the fine print to see if there's a cash discount. They see a sandwich that costs more than restaurants that don't do that. Moreover, most people don't care about a 4% surcharge. In their mind the sandwich is under $10 and once it goes on the card they tip off whatever was charged. Most people couldn't tell you how much the meals tax is or if there were any other fees. They hand over their card, add 20% to whatever was charged and move on with their lives. | |||
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| Eye on the Silver Lining |
Just to be clear, in my post above I’m not talking about the surcharge for credit cards- I get that and respect they charge fees that I don’t expect the business owner to eat. I’m talking about “hey we’re gonna pay the kitchen, hey we’re going to pay the hostess, hey we’re going to pay everybody else..” my understanding is if I tip 25+% percent they’re already going to divide it.. I already know the waitstaff that’s delivering it to my table isn’t the only one who did the work. In my recent experiences there’s already been a tallying out of the entrées to include tips- and then I’m tipping on top of that without being informed that it’s already covered. Hope I am clear here, because it’s been new in my neighborhood. Reminds me of the times I visit in New York City sitting next to some people in very nice restaurants who were saying…do not tip on the alcohol.. __________________________ "Trust, but verify." | |||
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For .92 cents and she's a good waitress, I'm not going to say anything, if it becomes a pattern, that's a different story. I'm not going to risk my food brushing against a mop or scrub brush, over.92 cents. Knew places growing up where servers would do horrible stuff to food of customers that were constant problems. | |||
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I have noticed the increasedfees for a card in my local eateries as well. Honestly, I only noticed because I was looking for the little tipping breakdown some of them put at the bottom. Anyway, I've just taken to making sure I carry enough cash to cover my meal if I decide to stop for lunch. I will say, so far it has only been the smaller independent shops and I haven't noticed it at the national chains I eat at once in a while. A Perpetual Disappointment... | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven! |
Math was never my strong suit LOL | |||
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This is the correct answer in my opinion. Why assume that it is some policy without asking? It could have been an honest mistake on her part.
Also a great answer! ___________________________________________ "Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" -Dr. Thaddeus Venture | |||
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At a restaurant I frequent I recently had a similar experience. I was basically told they don't give change (anything less than a dollar back). I said I understood but I just count that change towards the tip. | |||
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I've had my tip "raised" so many times on a cc slip that I've taken to writing it out, like "five" instead of "5". The most egregious was on a ten dollar tab. I left 4 bucks, it was raised to 14. I did have a talk with the manager on that one. | |||
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