This combination ruins so many places. I spent half my night trying to get both to do their damn jobs and didn’t accomplish a damn thing. *banging head against the wall*

Word.

After 50 years and many iterations, I tapped out.

Fuck them all.

Time to take care of you.

One of my biggest challenges has been finding ways to motivate lazy employees without ending up in HR.

So far it's worked, but it can take a lot of time to get something rolling. And in the meantime you can't talk about whatever you are doing in the background to the other employees, so they all think you're...Spineless management...

I've been there too. It didn't go over well when they asked me about my production numbers.

"My boss doesn't give a shit. My co-workers don't give a shit. Guess what?"

I didn't stay there long after that. Seems like the truth hurts more than piss poor craftsmanship or not meeting major objectives.

I was lucky. I studied the manuals and implemented corrective actions. It took some work, but never failed. And that was civil service.

I didn't stay there long after that. Seems like the truth hurts more than piss poor craftsmanship or not meeting major objectives.[/QUOTE]

So very true

The 1st rule of management is to deny that there is a problem.

If there is no problem, there is nothing to be dealt with and done.

Management doesn’t want to deal with problems because to do so requires decisions to be made and actions taken, and if they’re wrong then the next layer up in management gets upset and may have to deal with your mistake.

That’s not good, so now go refer to my first sentence.

It’s that simple.

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I love this theory by management.

Employees get ticked off at mgmt because there is a poor performer. Management is made aware. Time goes by. Then workerbees question mgmt about if any action is being taken against the poor performer. Mgmt tells workerbees that mgmt can't discuss. But then behind closed doors, mgmt talks to each other complaining about the workerbees saying.....they don't know what we are working on to address the poor performer.

When reality......mgmt DENIES THERE IS A PROBLEMS. Love it!! Supports what OKCGene wrote.

I say do what I did in state government. In 5 years I fired 4 people. All for non performance. DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT!

We've had that problem here for 32+ years.

Management prefers to think of itself as 'caring, OK, softhearted/softheaded' rather than ' spineless.'
Same shit, other side of the window, though.

Management wonders why Leemur/other posters isn't/aren't running his/their own business(es) in near-perfection, rather than continuing to suffer.