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Wow! I got it lucky. Live on 28 acres and my total tax bill last year was $980 and increased to $1015 for this year.
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Yup, yup, yup. This is why I bought 5 acres out of state. I used to protest myself, and win, bringing the price down, but it still went up. I just stop the bleeding every year. I would D up too, photos of things that needed to remodeled, things that needed to be fixed. Sometimes they’d settle via mail/email. Other times I would have to go in person to the county assessor. If they’d deny me because of X, well I had my ducks in a row the following year. I lost one year and hired a company as you did. They would barely stop the bleeding and this year they straight up lost. And just like you, up here in DFW, they raise it up the max allowed by law, by 10%, every year. I did the math, 3-4 years it’ll be 10k per year in property tax. I’m working on getting the fuck out of here. It’s crazy. You telling me with all these millions of people who have moved here, we homeowners, have to foot the bill for that? I’m tired of it.
I have fixed everything structural. Piers, all up under the slab to deal with the foundation shift over the years. Did it with steel poles too, not that bullshit concrete pilings (that will only last 6-10 years) so it’s permanently fixed. Remodeled the pool (which those funds were allocated for the kitchen, pool ate it), all new windows, siding, roof, radiant barrier, insulation, new doors, new breaker panel. I’ve spent a lot of money over the years on the place but the things that buyers look at most, kitchen and bathrooms, are NOT done. I never imagined millions and millions of people would move here to this heat, traffic, etc. We have extreme weather almost year round one way or the other. But I wanted the structural things done so I wouldn’t have to worry about it. I replaced the HVAC 9 years ago and I do not want to be here when it needs it again. I pray to God I can get the cosmetic bullshit done to sell it at some point and my work sings off on remote work as many people have it and live in various states. I know where I’m headed, 5 acre deed is already secured. I just don’t know how I am going to make it all happen. I just lack the words for how tired of it I am. I cannot stand this place now. The property taxes are crazy, utilities are all way up, traffic is way up. The only + thing I will gain is when I sell and flee the state. That’s great if your place is remodeled and your job will let you do. Otherwise you’re fucked.
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Every state ought to have a Prop 13 so folks won’t be driven out of their homes by property taxes.
Serious about crackers.
“For the children” is the battle cry here every year. We have to pay higher taxes because we have to pay for the boondoggle school construction projects that have typical budget overruns. Then when they bring in a few thousand more students, we have to pay for their free breakfast and lunch while the parents drop them off in Escalades and similar vehicles while checking their EBT balance on their $1500 new phones.
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If taxes always go up, there will come a time that you'll be taxed at 100%. Mathematical certainty.
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Keep in mind that in states like Texas and a few others, property taxes will necessarily be a bit higher, because they doesn't have income tax. Similar in other states that don't have sales tax.
So other taxes (like property) are going to be higher to make up the difference.
The government is going to get their piece, one way or another.
Yes but it’s pretty easy to perform computations to see if other states are cheaper WITH state income tax. TX is out of hand, period, with property tax cost. It costs more than many states with personal (state) income tax.
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I have zero issue with the government getting money they need and understand property taxes will be a “little” higher for reasons you mentioned. It is when they are out of control like now here in Texas that is the problem.
A few years ago I think when my home was being tax valued at around $375,000 I fought it myself and used the recent sale of a home just a few doors down with the EXACT same floor plan as mine and who also did no upgrades to their home. It sold for $250,000. I lost my dispute and they used homes that sold which had pools and totally renovated kitchens and bathrooms. You are supposed to have 10 minutes to make your argument and they cut me off at 2 minutes saying they have too many protests to give me my full allotted time.
My only recourse then was to file suit and pay out of my own pocket to take it to court with a jury, which was expensive. They don’t care. They want money money money and they have the upper hand. Of course the appraisal district for my county just bought a super fancy new huge building to accommodate all the new appeal hearings, which of course the tax payers paid for. When people start to not be able to afford the continued constant tax increases, that is a problem.
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Here you can freeze your assessed value . Any new taxes will still be added but the value of your property will remain the same .
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doesn't mean you should
The time to pay attention is the other eleven months of the year, when people are demanding money for their pet projects from your local government.
Once the budget is set, those same officials have to provide the funding from limited options.
That said, don't let them squander money (or steal), but also don't complain only when it's your time to write a check.
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People should be complaining at every public meeting these taxing authorities hold. It's a real shame when those spending your money routinely get nobody from the public showing up to the meetings and making their voices heard. It's easy to understand why those in these positions would think they can do whatever they want. If that was a problem, surely people would be here complaining!
I’m probably on a local watchlist because of my comments and the barely contained anger and contempt directed at our BoS.
I won't complain too much about my property taxes in WV on my residence and the land with it, but it has increased over 15 years from $800 to $1500. But about 1/2 of the increase was voted for on a school bond levy.
Everyone despised the personal property tax which in my case on my car, truck, and motorcycles was almost $500 this year. But beginning next year the State is going to refund us what we pay the county for personal property tax so it's essentially going away.
No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride.
Getting their hand in your pocket is literally the only thing the government is good at.
I pay $14k a year in Illinois. I can’t imagine the people around here with a house payment on top of that.
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Same. Since I've lived in the interior of Alaska (20 years now) the citizens of the borough (that's a county for you outside folk) have voted 5 times to cap the mill rate. The borough keeps sneaking alterations in to allow it to come up for vote again and again and again, and in the meantime they get around it by raising the assessed value of the property every single year. My property value (nothing special: we have a 3/2 ranch on 2 acres outside the city, so no city bullshit thankfully) went up $90k this year alone, $65k each of the previous 2 years. I am effectively paying taxes on a house and property valued at $520k that I purchased in 2015 for $242k. Our mortgage has gone from $1420 to almost $2000 a month in that time. It is robbery. There are several boroughs here in Alaska that do not have property taxes. Makes me want to move.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis
Rural WI - the "mil rate" here is about $18/thousand, peanuts compared to the previous posters. It varies place to place, depending on local spending. The school/county/municipality cannot raise their budgets more than 3% per year without a referendum. Revaluations still occur, trying to stay within 10% of market value, but when your local assessment goes up, the milrate goes down proportionally. It's not perfect, but it seems to work.
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Yup, and you can appeal it based on comparables in the area.. Dad's property management company offered his negotiation services every year to go after the county to save his clients money - fee was half the savings. They made a killing.
Which brings me to my reason for posting - OP, you may be able to appeal the increase.
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Turns out that Arkansas has a similar rule, although revenue isn't required to be strictly neutral.
Rather, the county and cities are only able to receive a maximum of a 10% increase in property tax revenue over the previous appraisal cycle. If the increase in revenue is projected to be over 10%, they have to roll back the millage rates until revenue is under that threshold.
So I guess the good news is that my property tax burden will be blunted a bit by the required rollback of the millage rate.
I always quietly stayed out of my coworkers property tax discussions, not wanting them to know I was "only" paying $5k a year, while they complained about $10k & $12k a year. (for 3 bedroom houses on 1/4 lots)
Throw in 8.75% sales tax, 38.5¢ a gallon gas tax (plus sales tax), sunshine tax, air tax...
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