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Maybe I lack sympathy, empathy or whatever, but a bereavement gift for my boss's boss's boss?

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December 22, 2020, 03:15 PM
frayedends
Maybe I lack sympathy, empathy or whatever, but a bereavement gift for my boss's boss's boss?
I really should feel the Christmas spirit and not be annoyed by this. But...

A coworker in my department texted me and said that "Keith's dad died and we would like to send him something, would you pitch in $15-$20?"

Now it's not a lot of money and he is a good guy. But Keith is 3 levels up from me. He has about 5 direct reports that are Director level, and they each have managers that report to them. We are not manager level.

In addition to that the company actually has a bereavement gift program where a group gets reimbursed for this type of thing. I mentioned this to my coworker and she said she knows but thought it would be nice to send something from our specific group. I could explain to her that is what the program covers, but I don't want to get to deep in this over $20.

Maybe I'm an ass but I think it's sort of a tough precedent to set. How many others will we be asked to pitch in for? I should mention, his father was probably in his 80s/90s and I doubt this was some tragic unexpected death.

Anyhow I'm gonna shut up and pay. But I am annoyed.




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December 22, 2020, 03:32 PM
Pyker
I would not pay.
December 22, 2020, 03:40 PM
Lefty Sig
Sounds similar to my department. Executive Director has several Directors, each with several direct reports which may be manager or specialist level.

In the event someone has a family death, the Executive Director's admin assistant would get a card and we would all sign it. Pretty much the same as a retirement, marriage, or new child.

Actually, death announcements usually go out by email and include a location to send flowers or contributions to charity in the person's name. That is more of a general obituary and anything further would be completely voluntary.
December 22, 2020, 03:59 PM
.38supersig
If the guy can't look you straight in the eye and address you by name (without being reminded of what it is) it isn't worthwhile.




December 22, 2020, 04:54 PM
BigSwede
A simple no works but I don't have to play politics at my job



December 22, 2020, 05:55 PM
Fredward
I vote for no as well. Relatives get cards. Co-workers and bosses get me saying I'm sorry for their loss. IMHO, there is no such thing as a "bereavement gift." Unless it's a neighbor, when I cook up a dish of something tasty that keeps well in the fridge.
December 22, 2020, 06:17 PM
arfmel
“Sorry your dad died. Here’s a gift we extorted from the team.”
December 22, 2020, 06:20 PM
lkdr1989
I know about cards - having signed quite a few, but a bereavement gift?




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December 22, 2020, 06:27 PM
OttoSig
I dont contribute to ANY office function. I also never plan one do as to not require requesting money either.

Last time i checked i didnt work for UNICEF or March of Dimes.

Solicitation of any kind at work pisses me off. Then again ive always been a bit of an asshole.





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December 22, 2020, 06:32 PM
WaterburyBob
Well I'm an asshole, too. When those cards come around I just check my name on the attached list and send it to the next person on the list.
These people are co-workers; VERY FEW are friends.



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December 22, 2020, 06:41 PM
229DAK
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
Solicitation of any kind at work pisses me off.
Any kind of solicitation at work should be prohibited.


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December 22, 2020, 07:39 PM
sigmonkey
By all means, pony up you selfish bastard. Are you not a team player? And make sure you buy double from anyone shaking you down for their kid's school fundraiser.

Perhaps such giving (or not) should be considered in everyone's performance review/feedback and weighted for promotion, raise and bonus programs.




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December 22, 2020, 09:31 PM
mindustrial
Gifts for people dying...I don’t get it. Donations in lieu of flowers, ok.
Sorry, can’t contribute, I’ve already made a donation to the Human Fund on behalf of the deceased.
December 22, 2020, 11:09 PM
Graniteguy
This is like gripes in the military - they go up the chain, not down.

And as a few posts eluded to - what the hell is a bereavement gift?
December 23, 2020, 06:43 AM
rsbolo
Never heard of a bereavement gift. Is this really a thing?

Cards, sure. Flowers, yes I have sent flowers to be displayed at the service.

A gift? To the family? Weird.


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December 23, 2020, 07:26 AM
braillediver
Never heard of such a thing. Seems a bunch of ass kissers trying to out do one another.

Flowers sure, Donation to a preferred charity in honor of the deceased OK.

I'd pass and have for other types of requests.


quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
I just check my name on the attached list and send it to the next person

+1 Those usually just become a mess and you can't tell who most of the people are anyways. Hell you can't even read most of them.


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December 23, 2020, 09:08 AM
egregore
quote:
[hitting people up for money for] bereavement gift

That strikes me as being in bad taste. Signing a sympathy card is OK. How about this one?


December 23, 2020, 10:59 AM
Krazeehorse
I never heard of a bereavement gift before this thread.


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December 23, 2020, 11:43 AM
konata88
Friend’s dad died. I express my sincere condolences and offer to help if i can. Not once did a “gift” come to mind. And that is for a friend. A coworker thrice removed? Wtf? When did that become a thing?




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December 23, 2020, 12:00 PM
frayedends
Okay so as I read these replies I was about to make a major correction in calling it a "gift". I was assuming by "getting him something", my coworker meant flowers or something like that.

Well I was more correct the first time. They sent him a basket with cookies and stuff. Here's a picture of what they sent. I got a text letting me know how to pay my $16.

I didn't really pay attention to the picture when I got the text about paying. I just said "OK". Figured I don't want to make waves this time of year. Anyhow, now seeing what was sent I think I should tell her that I think such a "gift" is inappropriate for someone grieving.

What say you all, tell her or just let this go?...







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