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Corgis Rock
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My four year old CMAX just had a “Check Tire Mobility” message appear. I dig out the manual. OK, fine. There is no spare tire but you get a air compressor and a tire sealant. The tire sealant is to be replaced after 4 years.
Call to the Ford dealer results in confusion. He had no idea about a replacement. First he found one for $330! Wait, that was the entire kit. The sealant was only $53.88. (Fix-A-Flat is $7.00)
Either nobody is replacing the sealant or the parts department doesn’t know about this.
Oh yes, the sealant is due out until 2019.
Looking on UTube, the air compressor and sealant fit together as one unit. The latter having a hose to fill the tire. Fix-A-Flat is pretty much out.
Mutter.
Checked Amazon. They have it as original equipment for $33. Fine, I get it delivered Friday.
Why not ignore it? Demon Murphy is out there waiting for me.



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Posts: 6066 | Location: Outside Seattle | Registered: November 29, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Is there room for a spare tire and they just don’t include one or is there not even a space for one?




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Posts: 15287 | Location: Florida | Registered: May 07, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Sealant and a toy compressor aren’t going to do a bit of good for a blowout, sidewall damage, or tread separation. I can’t believe auto manufacturers are doing that.

Just another reason I’ll continue to drive older sedans, SUVs, and pickup trucks.
 
Posts: 27275 | Location: SW of Hovey, Texas | Registered: January 30, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Corgis Rock
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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Is there room for a spare tire and they just don’t include one or is there not even a space for one?


Not an inch. It’s a hybrid to boot. Now, the 41 mpg is nothing to sneeze at.



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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Is there room for a spare tire and they just don’t include one or is there not even a space for one?


Not an inch. It’s a hybrid to boot. Now, the 41 mpg is nothing to sneeze at.


Thanks. A friend just asked me if I had ever heard of that model. His wife is looking at one. I will mention it to him. I don't know if he will care or not but a spare tire is something some people might just assume comes with every car.




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Posts: 15287 | Location: Florida | Registered: May 07, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I've been ignoring my tire mobility warning for nearly two years. I've never attempted to use the compressor or tire sealant in the nearly six years I've had the Taurus. I'd love to have the warning disabled but pushing the OK button on startup is cheaper than Ford would charge me to reset it.



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Posts: 18121 | Location: Sonoma County, CA | Registered: April 09, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Roll Eyes As if the "dinky donuts" (as I like to call temporary spares) weren't bad enough.
 
Posts: 29043 | Location: Johnson City, TN | Registered: April 28, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Our new Mazda came with no spare either, only sealant and a compressor.

I added a jack and lug wrench that fit from an older model. I also added a tire plugging kit and a tire pressure gauge. Peace of mind and they take up little room, so you might consider this as well.

For blow-outs etc I have to rely on AAA and a cell phone.



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Posts: 4214 | Location: Middle Tennessee | Registered: February 07, 2013Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Spare tires and jacks are so 1970.
My guess is one of the reasons manufacturers quit putting real spares in their cars is that no one knows how to change a tire.


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Posts: 16553 | Location: Marquette MI | Registered: July 08, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Not as lean, not as mean,
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A couple of reasons for manufacturers dropping the spare tire:

1) mpg requirements. The weight of the tire and jack equal 1-2 additional mpg

2) cost. The tire and jack cost more than the compressor and fix a flat. Over the thousands of vehicles made, it adds up.

3) roadside assistance. Included with most new vehicles, insurance plans, and through private companies (AAA) who changes their tire anymore?

I have a full size space on my pathfinder, and maintain it as we do explore unpaved logging roads. We have the full diameter mini space in my wife's Escape, as that's awd.
While I prefer the ability to change the tire and not wait for roadside assistance, but I do understand the change in production.




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Posts: 3400 | Location: Southern Maine | Registered: February 10, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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A couple of reasons for manufacturers dropping the spare tire:

1) mpg requirements. The weight of the tire and jack equal 1-2 additional mpg
No way a tire and jack are costing you that much MPG. If that were the case the family in the Suburban going to the beach would get 1 mpg.

2) cost. The tire and jack cost more than the compressor and fix a flat. Over the thousands of vehicles made, it adds up.
True. But the cost is usually passed on to the consumer. If you told me a spare tire and jack cost $150 extra, I would surely buy it.
3) roadside assistance. Included with most new vehicles, insurance plans, and through private companies (AAA) who changes their tire anymore?
What is roadside coverage going to do with a flat tire and no spare. Its ridiculous to think you would have to get your vehicle towed to shop simply for a nail in the tire.

I have a full size space on my pathfinder, and maintain it as we do explore unpaved logging roads. We have the full diameter mini space in my wife's Escape, as that's awd.
While I prefer the ability to change the tire and not wait for roadside assistance, but I do understand the change in production.


 
Posts: 5489 | Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA | Registered: February 27, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Not as lean, not as mean,
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Sorry, it was 1%, not 1 mpg. All of my other points are still valid. I'm not saying I agree with this direction, just saying I can understand why manufacturers are going this way.

Tire Rack article on spare tire extinction




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Posts: 3400 | Location: Southern Maine | Registered: February 10, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I haven't had to change a flat in 12? years now. I keep a compressor and plug kit and plug it myself. I started with RunFlats on my '06 BMW and eventtually switched to goflats because the ride was harsh. A compressor and plug kit is what I used. Never had a blowout. I switched to Subaru in '14 and it had a spare, never checked on it or took it out since I just moved the compressor and plug kit.

In 73k miles, never ran over a nail, went back to BMW with the runflats and just moved my compressor and plug kit over to it. Once these runflats wear out, I'll replace them with goflats. The ride's not as harsh, but still harsh enough.

It's true no one these days knows how to change a tire. I think I've taught four people (3 of them men, if you can call them that) this summer how to change their tires. I've started carrying my impact wrench and a deep socket kit in my patrol car to speed things up.



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