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February 03, 2020, 06:27 PM
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Trite expressions on the forum
"I don't wish this on my worst enemy (or on anyone)."
For example, some well known public figure (e.g., RBG) has a malignancy. Someone will invariably come on and blurt that shit out. What's really the point?


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March 09, 2020, 12:57 PM
radioman
"He was trying to turn his life around..."

(sorry if this is a duplicate)


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October 23, 2020, 07:54 PM
sigfreund
Back up for “comedy gold.”




“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
— Thomas Paine
January 27, 2021, 06:43 PM
sigfreund
And up again for, “Xyz much?” as in “Delusional much?” “biased much?” “Kool-Aid much?”

Where did that inane agrammatical expression come from, and why is it so popular?
If you want to criticize someone’s position or thinking, why is it so hard to spell it out? “You’re delusional.” “You’ve been drinking too much Kool-Aid” (it was actually Flavor Aid). I’m not sure exactly why that expression annoys me, but I am reminded of an observation by Arthur Schopenhauer: “He who writes carelessly confesses thereby at the very outset that he does not attach much importance to his own thoughts.”




“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
— Thomas Paine
January 27, 2021, 08:57 PM
cas
On the internet, no one works for a police department or a sheriffs department.

"Agency"
January 27, 2021, 09:16 PM
jljones
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
And up again for, “Xyz much?” as in “Delusional much?” “biased much?” “Kool-Aid much?”

Where did that inane agrammatical expression come from, and why is it so popular?
If you want to criticize someone’s position or thinking, why is it so hard to spell it out? “You’re delusional.” “You’ve been drinking too much Kool-Aid” (it was actually Flavor Aid). I’m not sure exactly why that expression annoys me, but I am reminded of an observation by Arthur Schopenhauer: “He who writes carelessly confesses thereby at the very outset that he does not attach much importance to his own thoughts.”


In answer to your question, “kool aid” was the expression used by Reverend Jim Jones at Jonestown, Guyana. Jones poisoned 800 or so of his followers with his “kool aid” while mixed with cyanide. They drank the concoction voluntarily at the urging of Jones.

“Flavor aid” might have been the proper name for the powdered kids drink but the concoction drank by his followers was referred to as “kool aid” despite being laced with cyanide. Reports vary to the actual brand of powdered drink, but there isn’t any controversy to which brand of cyanide either. Therefore, when true believers drink the parties drink, often against their own self interests, (IE union members that vote for a political candidate who has promised to cut thousands of union jobs if elected) it is referred to as “drinking the kool aid”.

If you were seriously wondering the origins of the term.

https://www.koolaid.com/




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January 27, 2021, 10:45 PM
bendable
"Pulled the trigger"
Going to pull the trigger

Before I pull the trigger

Should I pull the trigger ?

Followed me home,
Following me home,
Will follow me home,

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January 28, 2021, 09:02 AM
sigfreund
My question was in the first sentence: where did the inane “… much?” come from? I wasn’t asking about Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, which I’m quite familiar with.

Although I cannot recall which book I read about Jonestown because it was some years ago, it covered the entire background and the incident itself in great detail, to include the type of drink flavoring that was laced with cyanide (for some reason trivial facts like that tend to stick with me). I mention the fact that it was Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid as an example of how people who pick up a catchy phrase and start larding their conversations and discussions with it, frequently have no idea where it came from. I would bet a nickel that most people today who refer to “drinking the kool-aid” have no idea where it originated. I doubt they so much as heard of Jim Jones or the Peoples Temple, and I doubt they would be able to find Guyana on a map even if they knew what it had to do with the poisonous drink those deluded people killed themselves with.

I could cite many other examples of people using expressions or words that they don’t truly understand, but if I did, they would be challenged with, “But, … but …,” so I won’t.

In any event, this is just some venting about something that isn’t very important even by the importance standards here, but which manages to get under my skin in discussions. There is nothing about that “… much?” expression that contributes to meaningful dialogues.




“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
— Thomas Paine
January 28, 2021, 09:09 AM
V-Tail
quote:
I doubt they would be able to find Guyana on a map
I don't have a map or globe handy, but if my antique memory is not failing too badly, I think it's just east of Venezuela.



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January 28, 2021, 09:17 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by cas:
On the internet, no one works for a police department or a sheriffs department.

"Agency"


In Colorado they are Sheriff’s Offices, not departments. Wink
I often use “agency” to make it clear that I’m referring to the … ahem … department, and not the building where the people work.




“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
— Thomas Paine
January 28, 2021, 09:35 AM
fritz
I've been living under a rock for the past 12 years -- why are the prices for ammo / ammo components / firearms so high?

When will it end?

I only jump on firearms websites a couple times a day. Why didn't somebody warn me that this might happen?

Why didn't the news media state there were issues?

Why can't I get what I want, when I want, at the price I want?
January 28, 2021, 06:47 PM
jljones
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
(for some reason trivial facts like that tend to stick with me)


Oh yeah? Well how about despite the fact that I too have read books on this, my mind has spent the day trying to remember who played Jim Jones in the “Sunday Night at the movies” on Network TV when I was a kid. All I can remember is Lavare Burton.

Try rolling around with the trivial fact that there WAS a made for TV movie on NBC that long ago. Given the fact that just about every network TV “made for TV” movie was horrible in those days.

Smile

(Ok, I finally googled it. Powers Booth, CBS 1980)




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February 01, 2021, 05:25 AM
Steyn
Referring to scopes as “glass” and bullets as “pills”.

“I’m running my AR with Lapua .223 shells, Hornady XYZ powder, and 55 gr. pills. The glass is a Leupold MXR with 4-666 magnification, and that alone cost me more than what your great-grandpa made on the Klondike Gold Rush.”

Heck, that’s annoying.
February 01, 2021, 12:02 PM
apprentice