USPS In My Area Set A New Record Yesterday

October 20, 2022, 03:53 PM

Flash-LB

Delivered my mail at 9:25PM.

Definitely an all time record for the latest mail delivery.

It's interesting that they switch the mail delivery person about every 2 or 3 weeks.

When a guy is delivering, I get mail at somewhere between 1PM and 2PM.

When a woman is delivering, I get mail at 5:30PM to 6:30PM.

I wonder who delivered last night? Couldn't have been a man or a woman. Maybe a tranny?

October 20, 2022, 05:04 PM

fischtown7

Our mail carrier will do laps in our neighborhood, stop, leave, come back, deliver again, and just when you think their done will come back again. No wonder they are losing money. And yes its the same one.

October 20, 2022, 07:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fischtown7:
Our mail carrier will do laps in our neighborhood, stop, leave, come back, deliver again, and just when you think their done will come back again. No wonder they are losing money. And yes its the same one.

Mine signed a certified letter for me several days ago and stuck it in the mailbox.

October 20, 2022, 07:21 PM

ZSMICHAEL

quote:
It's interesting that they switch the mail delivery person about every 2 or 3 weeks.

^^^^^^^^^^^
It is a route NOBODY wants. The carriers compete for the best routes. The older carriers get the shortest routes with the least mail.
It is technically against postal regulations to deliver after dark due to safety issues, but if the carrier has seniority they do what they want.

October 20, 2022, 10:05 PM

Kskelton

Yeah it’ll only get worse around Christmas time usually.

October 21, 2022, 01:29 AM

berto

I routinely see my guy in the neighborhood until after 9:00 p.m. I don’t even bother checking for the mail until after 8:00 p.m.

October 21, 2022, 01:30 AM

OKCGene

quote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:

I wonder who delivered last night? Couldn't have been a man or a woman. Maybe a tranny?

I'd say your Tranny is slipping, needs to R&R and do an internal inspection. Probably too late for a fluid drain and refill.

LOL..

October 21, 2022, 07:14 AM

Blume9mm

I wonder if they belong to the postal union how much they get for overtime?

Years ago my sister in law who lived on Capital Hill in D.C. did not get mail for a week. Seems the carrier got barked at by a neighbors dog and he or she decided to no longer deliver on that block. I've always wondered what the postal service did about that.... he letter carrier probably got a reprimand and moved to a different route. You or I would have been put in jail.

October 21, 2022, 01:04 PM

rebut10

Unless something has changed in the last 5 years at the P.O. Regular Carriers "own" their routes once they have successfully "won" it in the bidding process. There is a "substitute carrier" assigned to cover the regular's days off, sick time and vacations. If there are not enough subs to cover all the routes random subs are assigned as needed (this is where most delivery issue can happen).

Once a route is "owned" by a "regular" mail carrier it is his/hers until they retire, win a bid on a better route or get fired (almost impossible). Bids are won based on seniority so when the "owner" of a good, better or the best route retires everyone who is interested in that route bids on that specific route or lists other routes in order of preference (based on who might move into the better route and what opening(s) occur in the shuffle).

The process can take weeks or even months to work itself out. In the meantime, a sub should be assigned to cover the route until the bidding process and assignment of the new regular is completed by/in management process. Subs who bid end up on the bottom/worst route waiting for something better to open up.

A couple of years after I retired from my real job, I took a "part time" job as a "rural" sub/carrier (as opposed to a "city" sub/carrier) because I was looking to alleviate the doldrums of retirement. I worked it for 3 years. I left because I had "aged" into a point where I would be "promoted" into a position where more hours would be forced on me or I would have bid into an undesirable route and work even more hours. Either way my 46 average hour per week "part time" job was already more than I had bargained for.

Oh...and BTW, there is no added benefit for a regular carrier to work late. They are paid according to the length of their route. Basically, route #21 is a "J" route. It pays 48 hours of the carrier's hourly rate with overtime built in. If they finish their week in 32 hours, they still get paid for 48. If they finish in 52 hrs, they get paid 48. Most are done in less than the assigned time for their routes but Christmas season balances some of that out.

October 21, 2022, 08:07 PM

Orguss

quote:
Originally posted by rebut10:
Oh...and BTW, there is no added benefit for a regular carrier to work late. They are paid according to the length of their route. Basically, route #21 is a "J" route. It pays 48 hours of the carrier's hourly rate with overtime built in. If they finish their week in 32 hours, they still get paid for 48. If they finish in 52 hrs, they get paid 48. Most are done in less than the assigned time for their routes but Christmas season balances some of that out.

I'm assuming you're still talking about rural carriers, since they're salaried where city carriers are hourly.

As far as the OPs statement that they switch carriers every few weeks, I'm guessing that route is open/they don't have enough carriers--regular or otherwise/or have such high turnaround that their CCAs keep quitting before a routine can be established.

October 21, 2022, 08:46 PM

V-Tail

quote:
Originally posted by Orguss:

CCAs

October 21, 2022, 10:36 PM

SevenPlusOne

quote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
I wonder if they belong to the postal union how much they get for overtime?

Years ago my sister in law who lived on Capital Hill in D.C. did not get mail for a week. Seems the carrier got barked at by a neighbors dog and he or she decided to no longer deliver on that block. I've always wondered what the postal service did about that.... he letter carrier probably got a reprimand and moved to a different route. You or I would have been put in jail.

Union has nothing to do with how much overtime you get.
Dog at large, I guess you should get your neighbor to put their fucking dog up. Post Office has NOTHING to do with your dog biting a carrier, nothing. It's a civil matter. So if say, a 90lb pitbull rips that carriers face off, what happens? There was a rural carrier killed a few months ago by a pack of stray dogs. Oh well. Guess you shouldn't have walked down that street.
Put in jail for what? Not delivering mail? I don't deliver peoples mail all the time for a multitude of reason, roofing, dog shit, stand off with police, stand off with US Marshalls, maybe it's DEA Thursday, maybe that meth house finally burned and the toxic fumes are still lingering.

October 21, 2022, 10:43 PM

SevenPlusOne

quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Orguss:

CCAs

City Carrier Assistant. Glorified minimum wage employees. They quit so quickly they are now starting to baby them. Time as a CCA doesn't count towards your retirement, no benefits. You can make just as much working retail or McDonalds. So when people realize this isn't a job you just show up and "Oh geez it sure is nice today"
When you walk in freezing rain for 10 or so hours, that's when you decide if it's really worth what they pay you.

BTW: My record was 10pm, day after Columbus day 2013.

October 22, 2022, 09:15 AM

Flash-LB

Way back, years ago, I met a guy who was a mail carrier. Very bright guy, just too lazy to go out into the busy world, so he decided to deliver mail for 20 years and then retire.

He'd arrive at work at 6 am and then return the vehicle at 11:30, go home and shower, then go to lunch with me.

Of course other employees complained, so they shifted him around to the more difficult routes.

Same thing happened. He still finished up, showered and went to lunch with me.

The Post Office ultimately gave up and left him alone.

October 22, 2022, 12:36 PM

rebut10

quote:
Originally posted by Orguss:
quote:
Originally posted by rebut10:
Oh...and BTW, there is no added benefit for a regular carrier to work late. They are paid according to the length of their route. Basically, route #21 is a "J" route. It pays 48 hours of the carrier's hourly rate with overtime built in. If they finish their week in 32 hours, they still get paid for 48. If they finish in 52 hrs, they get paid 48. Most are done in less than the assigned time for their routes but Christmas season balances some of that out.

I'm assuming you're still talking about rural carriers, since they're salaried where city carriers are hourly.

As far as the OPs statement that they switch carriers every few weeks, I'm guessing that route is open/they don't have enough carriers--regular or otherwise/or have such high turnaround that their CCAs keep quitting before a routine can be established.

AFAIK both city and rural carriers pay is based on the route hours (be it a "J" "K" or "L" route for example) times their hourly rate. A "J" route might be 48 hours a "K" route may be 50 hours. So a "J" route would pay 40 hours of regular time plus 8 hours of overtime regardless of actual time spent completing the route. Most everyone's base hourly rate is different depending on how long they long they've been employed and how many contract negotiated pay increases have occurred during their tenure.

October 22, 2022, 02:51 PM

PASig

Do your mail carriers look like walking ragbags?

Because around here they do, it’s embarrassing

UPS/FedEx/Amazon are dressed professionally. USPS looks like shitbags in half worn uniforms, shirttails hanging out, baseball caps, you name it. Just unprofessional

October 22, 2022, 03:03 PM

Flash-LB

Around here, there's no uniforms at all, just shorts, levis, t-shirts and, in some cases, boonie hats.

October 22, 2022, 05:19 PM

Orguss

quote:
Originally posted by rebut10:
AFAIK both city and rural carriers pay is based on the route hours (be it a "J" "K" or "L" route for example) times their hourly rate. A "J" route might be 48 hours a "K" route may be 50 hours. So a "J" route would pay 40 hours of regular time plus 8 hours of overtime regardless of actual time spent completing the route. Most everyone's base hourly rate is different depending on how long they long they've been employed and how many contract negotiated pay increases have occurred during their tenure.

I'm unaware of such a policy. That sounds like something like San Francisco bus drivers, who I do know get paid differently based on the route they drive.

October 22, 2022, 05:47 PM

SigSAC

Delivery time at my Dad's house has fluctuated a lot. I've seen 8:30PM to 9PM a few times. I also know that a carrier for the area committed suicide during the pandemic. I've talked to a few carriers, and they're working extra hours and splitting routes that aren't covered on any day.

One of our local stations had an article about it yesterday:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...41539f4d9bc23fddd616

USPS workers working later hours due to worker shortage

SACRAMENTO — A shortage of workers has led to United States Postal Service workers having to work later, sometimes delivering at night.

"We're seeing postal trucks going around our neighborhoods at eight at night trying to do what they need to do," said a homeowner.

She says her mail shows up late and, sometimes, not at all.

But why is mail taking longer and arriving later in the day?

"We do have pockets within the north state that are in need of more workers and more carriers," said a USPS representative.

Current latter carriers are working overtime hours to compensate.

The USPS says there are policies in place to protect employees from working after dark.

"They have headlamps while they're delivering at night, and often we have them delivering in pairs," said the representative.

The USPS says letter carriers are paid extra when they work overtime, and the extra shifts are optional.