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The old “Bait and Switch” at work
February 19, 2022, 04:38 PM
chongosuerteThe old “Bait and Switch” at work
Fuming a bit right now.
Recently took a new position at work. Stressful gig, but great hours, quite flexible. Was a good fit based on my past experience and skills.
1:30 Friday afternoon I was notified of a new expectation, that completely changes the dynamics of the position. It removes the positive aspects above that balanced the bullshit that came with the position’s actual work. And there’s no real reason for the change beyond someone up top thinks it’s a good idea.
I’m pissed enough that I’m seriously considering requesting to go back to third shift. Anywhere in the city. Much much much less bullshit, less work, same money, more days off. My partner very well might not even think about it, as much shit as he’s been through with them, and just walk right out.
Gonna be an interesting week.
Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here.
Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard.
-JALLEN
"All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones
February 20, 2022, 04:53 AM
marksman41I despise that tactic of delivering bad news on Fridays. Here's hoping you can extricate yourself from the situation without retribution from the AICs (Assholes In Charge).
February 20, 2022, 05:19 AM
4MUL8RIs it possible that the person up top who made such an immediate change would quickly recognize the error, and return to original plan?
Is it possible that the better shift / hours will balance, in time, the new requirements? Any chance that home life will improve regardless, by staying on the new post?
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February 20, 2022, 07:09 AM
YooperSigsGood luck! With my outfit, there was a similar situation involving tuition reimbursement. They would pay X amount of dollars toward an advance college degree in Criminal Justice or Public Administration. The catch was attending the classes and maintaining a B grade. I would enroll in the classes and either my shift would rotate, or I would have to be in court, have to work OT or be in some bullshit training.
Never once completed a single course!
End of Earth: 2 Miles
Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles
February 20, 2022, 08:41 AM
MWCSo many time in my life the job was nothing like the job description that attracted me to apply and accept it.
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February 20, 2022, 09:17 AM
shovelheadquote:
Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
Is it possible that the person up top who made such an immediate change would quickly recognize the error, and return to original plan?
Is it possible that the better shift / hours will balance, in time, the new requirements? Any chance that home life will improve regardless, by staying on the new post?
Unfortunately many times in both private and public sectors the person or persons that implement the unworkable changes are too arrogant to admit that they made a bad decision.
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————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman)
February 20, 2022, 09:22 AM
Flash-LBIn my Engineering World, the job description was usually followed by a statement to the effect of "plus whatever else Management needs done" or something like that.
It was normal for my whole working life.
February 20, 2022, 04:36 PM
Ronin101my job makes a shitty position and then when someone they like gets it. they switch it to a better job!

February 20, 2022, 05:26 PM
oldbill123I think many people have woken up to the fact that many workplaces are toxic. Rather live with less than put up with it. Management's response is just to import foreign workers who will put up with it - for a while
February 20, 2022, 07:13 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:
In my Engineering World, the job description was usually followed by a statement to the effect of "plus whatever else Management needs done" or something like that.
It was normal for my whole working life.
Yeah, even in the LE world, all my agency's job descriptions end with "And other duties as assigned".
Doesn't mean it sucks any less when the rug gets unexpectedly pulled out from under you by the brass.
February 20, 2022, 09:13 PM
Tonydecquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Yeah, even in the LE world, all my agency's job descriptions end with "And other duties as assigned." [/QUOTE]
You want to have a good time? At your next mandatory HR training session, have someone bring that up. HR will go on and on justifying it. That's when you say "They should add that to wedding vows." Then stand back as they lose their mind!
Tony
February 21, 2022, 01:28 AM
bendableB.t.d.t.
Got hired to drive truck for four times the usual rate.
Excellent Ins. Benefits great vaca.
They switched me too whse. I walked
Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.
Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first
February 21, 2022, 07:24 AM
rsboloquote:
Originally posted by bendable:
B.t.d.t.
Got hired to drive truck for four times the usual rate.
Excellent Ins. Benefits great vaca.
They switched me too whse. I walked
Help me out, what is "whse"?
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February 21, 2022, 07:58 AM
tsmccullGuessing warehouse?
February 21, 2022, 08:22 AM
GraniteguyWarehouse. If you're the type of person that enjoys driving a truck the last place you want to be is working in a warehouse.(or cubicle)
February 21, 2022, 09:47 AM
Flash-LBquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Yeah, even in the LE world, all my agency's job descriptions end with "And other duties as assigned".
Doesn't mean it sucks any less when the rug gets unexpectedly pulled out from under you by the brass.
That happened to me a couple of times and my answer was to resign and take employment elsewhere. My record was resigning one day after they pulled the rug out from under me.
February 21, 2022, 10:30 AM
LoboGunLeatherPure speculation here, but I have seen management utilize assignments as a means for achieving specific results.
Changes of shift, duty assignments, work locations, other factors can be used to "cull the herd", encourage particular employees to resign (or act out in ways that could justify disciplinary action). In some cases even an unwanted promotion might cause an employee to walk or rebel.
Generally speaking, unless the changes amount to a demotion (reduced hourly rate or salary, etc) the employee has little or no recourse. In a unionized company there might be avenues for appeal or remediation, but those working without a contract seldom have such recourse.
We never know for sure what cards the other players are holding unless we call or raise. A poker metaphor, but in addition to playing a little poker I was also in management for about 30 years.
Retired holster maker.
Retired police chief.
Formerly Sergeant, US Army Airborne Infantry, Pathfinders
February 21, 2022, 10:57 AM
kidcopSimilar things drove me to retirement. I was being pulled in so many different directions that I couldn't accomplish anything to my standards. I was lucky that I had my time in, otherwise it was going to be a really unpleasant meeting. There is a benefit to documenting EVERYTHING.
February 26, 2022, 07:22 AM
chongosuerteWell I stood my ground as did my partner, and I think the sense of the matter was realized.
It was effectively turning a 50 hour week into a 60 hour week, for no reason other than “it makes sense (it didn’t). Plus we are already each on call 24/7, 25% of the year. We are hourly and supervise a high liability, stupid busy, pair of units.
We are all replaceable, but he and I have very rare (maybe even unique) combinations of certifications that are time consuming (and you’re not guaranteed to pass) to replicate. It’s nice sometimes lol
Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here.
Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard.
-JALLEN
"All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones
February 26, 2022, 05:56 PM
HRKquote:
Originally posted by rsbolo:
Help me out, what is "whse"?
Been concerned if he'd walked out of the whorehouse because of a shift change..
