I seen a S&W 686 Pro listed no Reserve ,Sale price Includes free shipping and Credit card fees. ( stated in the Description ) So on the 5/15 I put a bid in for the amount I wanted be at when the serious people start bidding. So I can weigh my options. Bingo I am high bidder. on the 18th They add Information in item Description.( Sorry for any confusion but only the Buy It Now price gets free shipping and credit card fees. Thank you
Information above was added on 5/18/2017 7:43:19 PM),
Emails with seller is not going well, and GB is not returning my emails

after our emails I don't want to purchase from this buyer any advise from the Forum members ?

If you feel like the free shipping that was pulled is a deal breaker than cancel your bid.

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Originally posted by remsig:
If you feel like the free shipping that was pulled is a deal breaker than cancel your bid.

it is a deal breaker and the way they have handled it is awful. And I do NOT want to do business with this seller.
I have asked for my bid to be retracted but the way I read it only the seller can do this!

Dispute the transaction with the credit card company.

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Originally posted by IndianaMike:

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Originally posted by remsig:
If you feel like the free shipping that was pulled is a deal breaker than cancel your bid.

it is a deal breaker and the way they have handled it is awful. And I do NOT want to do business with this seller.
I have asked for my bid to be retracted but the way I read it only the seller can do this!

This is from Gunbroker:

You cannot retract a bid once you place it unless there are exceptional circumstances.

Exceptional circumstances include:

The seller materially changing the description of the item after you placed a bid
Clear typographical errors in the auction description
A data entry mistake while bidding (for example, you bid $40,000 instead of $400)


I would consider the revision as changing the description and would not pay if you won the auction. You may risk getting negative feedback but I'd fight it with Gunbroker.

Also, if you aren't the only bidder, perhaps someone else will outbid you and it would be a moot point anyways at that point.

They certainly changed the proposition after you placed your bid. Shipping and CC charges aren't simply typographical errors.

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They certainly changed the proposition after you placed your bid. Shipping and CC charges aren't simply typographical errors.

I agree. Dealt with Gunbroker a fair bit. Have you checked how much negative feedback the seller has had? If they will not take those charges off, cancel it with your credit card company and if the Seller has negative feedback for you simply state the above. In fact I would tell the Seller the same. Let us know how this turns out. Gunbroker prefers to not get involved which is generally the case. If you are comfortable post the name of the Seller here.

You expect GB to be helpful?

If it comes down to it, and your are the winner, don't pay. You are on the right, and if they left negative feedback, leave one back with your explanation. They can't escape from the truth.

I located the probable Seller. He has all positive feedback. I had a few issues in the past and have worked them out with the seller via a brief phone conversation. Phone is better than email in these situations. I doubt he will want negative feedback, but is waiting to see if there are higher bidders. It should work out for you. See what happens when the auction ends.

How much is the shipping?

Seller is NOT allowed to change their terms after a bid has been placed.

That means the listed terms actually still apply, because that's what is official despite what the seller tries to say after the fact.

If the seller tries to say otherwise he would be in violation of GB terms and you'd not be obligated to complete the transaction.

I killed a deal on GB for this same reason and GB eventually saw it my way. But that happened like 8 years ago. Seller had a half dozen S&W 4506's up and I was the winner of one. He had free shipping on it until I got it for the minimum bid. Suddenly, he's got a $30 shipping charge on it, which makes it almost exactly the BIN price. I tried being nice with him, but he wasn't being cooperative at all, and I told him flat out the deal was off, as far as I was concerned. I would buy it for what I bid, and that was it, it wasn't my problem that he didn't get the BIN price, and he should ship it for free, as he had stated originally. He called me up and yelled at me, calling me a kid (I was 52!), and I just told him the deal was off, over and over again. He apparently put up a negative feedback on me, but GB removed it. The gun went back up a week later, with the same BIN price and $15 shipping and someone bought it. He soon was gone though, after several negative feedbacks where buyers complained that the pics he took hid serious flaws.

In my opinion, Gunbroker had made it more difficult to check someone's feedback. They changed the feedback format making it harder to get to and I can't get it to display at all on my tablet, I have to use my desktop .

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Originally posted by 12131:
If it comes down to it, and your are the winner, don't pay. You are on the right, and if they left negative feedback, leave one back with your explanation. They can't escape from the truth.

Did this once with an auction there. The seller may try to put you a list as a non paying buyer or something along those lines.
Dispute it with GB. I got mine taken off, left him very negative feedback and haven't been back since.

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Originally posted by NK402:
In my opinion, Gunbroker had made it more difficult to check someone's feedback. They changed the feedback format making it harder to get to and I can't get it to display at all on my tablet, I have to use my desktop .

Yeah I've noticed this too. I find it almost impossible to see my own feedback

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Originally posted by SR025:

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Originally posted by NK402:
In my opinion, Gunbroker had made it more difficult to check someone's feedback. They changed the feedback format making it harder to get to and I can't get it to display at all on my tablet, I have to use my desktop .

Yeah I've noticed this too. I find it almost impossible to see my own feedback

I can see all of my feedback...and all of the feedback I have left...back to 2003...

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Originally posted by varoadking:

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Originally posted by SR025:

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Originally posted by NK402:
In my opinion, Gunbroker had made it more difficult to check someone's feedback. They changed the feedback format making it harder to get to and I can't get it to display at all on my tablet, I have to use my desktop .

Yeah I've noticed this too. I find it almost impossible to see my own feedback

I can see all of my feedback...and all of the feedback I have left...back to 2003...

But probably not as easily as in the past .

I had a situation last year with a Beretta the seller couldn't make up his mind if the serial number was the same on the frame as the slide. I pulled out and GB SHUT ME DOWN FROM USING THEIR SITE! I appealed it and found out this particular seller wasn't 100% truthful, they reversed their decision with me. Sh#% sometimes happens

What happened with the deal?