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Yeah, I'm with you. Bounce it off the applicable "metric" and decide what works for the situation. I think a lot of it is the commercial real estate market was going to shit, and the lack of, at least perceived, control of employees. Of course, the ball gargling opportunities must exist! that's funny right there | |||
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100% agree Prefontaine, do not hand WFH out to everyone. I never thought about earning the WFH privilege. I may change my policy after your post. My engineers will need to respond post haste if WFH will be an option for them. Thanks! | |||
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Bingo! Before retiring, and long before Covid, I was working at home. I went into the office for meetings that benefitted/required from my direct presence, usually involving those in the C-suite. I was in IT Architecture and Planning and worked with people across the US. Even if I was in my office, I would be on Skype for 95% of meetings. My observation after 41 years in IT: it is old school managers and control freaks that want to see people in the office. Good leaders can manage WFH employees. Let me help you out. Which way did you come in? | |||
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I agree, wfh is fine for most hard working people. I have spoken to counterparts about this and working form the office is important, I arrive before those I supervise and I am there till when I expect them to be there. I am way more productive working from home. Two hours commute alone, but also the lack of distraction adds to working time. My problem is I didn’t shut off when working from home. Go straight to work at 6:00 and wouldn’t stop I just walk away from work. After dinner or if I was bored I’d go back to work.id do this till going to sleep. When I leave the office drive home and hour. I turn it off. I don’t answer work emails in fact there are times first thing in the am I learn of an urgent task I didn’t see the night before. Although now living in ATL driving into the city working on projects in Nashville remotely is stupid. ------------------------------ Smart is not something you are but something you get. Chi Chi, get the yayo | |||
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That's an interesting post. There is definite hypocrisy when dealing with the government. I "retired" in 2022 from a full-time government contractor position that was very specialized (not Secret or higher classification). I had done the job since 2001. Even though I was moving from the immediate area, my employer wanted to keep me as a consultant while they searched for a replacement. So, that being said, I became a part-time remote consultant, doing my work after hours (6PM-10PM time frame), with a separate computer system that I used VPN with to do my work. As government things go, the contract was re-bid last Spring, a new contractor announced in June, and the new contract took effect 1 October. Even though the contract changed, most of the former employees were retained, and because the new contractor couldn't find a full-time employee to fill my former position, I was retained as well, as a part-time, remote consultant. Well, in the first week of November, the Base Contracting Office changed the contract requirements and demanded ALL contract employees need to be full-time and on-site. So, I was laid off from this consulting job. There were some other employees in a similar position, and they were laid off as well. And as the quoted post says, ironically the Base Contracting Office has a number of "off-site / work-at-home" employees themselves right now. I have my "fingers crossed" that it may work out eventually, since my previous employer hadn't found a replacement after 2 years, nor had the new contractor. We'll see what happens. The base is the one who suffers from lack of services in the end. | |||
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| Non Nobis Solum |
I’ve been remote since pandemic in a tech sales role. There is absolutely zero reason for me to work in an office. My productivity is much higher at home without office distractions. I travel to clients and conferences but doubt I’ll ever work in an office again. It’s not a deal killer but it would be a factor in my future choices. DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Folks can rationalize and try to justify whatever their desire to wfh, and some jobs actually make sense wfh. But, here is the bottom line. You ain't the boss. You work for someone. You don't get to set the rules. They do, and if you don't like them, then they can give you the boot. Q | |||
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Look - They hired thousands of IT workers as remote workers. Then few years pass they are demanding Return to Office. AFTER: Hiring someone as a remote worker. This means uprooting you family and relocating to Seattle. Hard F'ing pass... I'd be pissed if I was hired as a remote worker then this happened. My opinion as a Tech Recruiter in this space. They are forcing people to quit & find other jobs. They don't have to pay a severance and they don't get rolled into layoff numbers that are reported. These are layoffs disguised as Return to Office. But they get to save face as not having to report layoffs. EDIT: In this instance I'm talking about Amazon. Train how you intend to Fight Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat. | |||
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I’m all for it in a no customer contact position. I can tell in an instant I have a WFH stooge by the dog barking baby crying tv in the background and the lack of attention etc | |||
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