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is just about one of the most chickenshit things in existence. And before anyone asks, no, I didn't get a ticket. But it's infuriating to see these cars in use. A police car should be a visible symbol of law and order. A rolling representation of the forces of good. Not a stealth vehicle set up for...what, ambush operations? It's only useful for traffic enforcement, which is still better served by a standard-decaled vehicle, you know, that people can see and then adjust their driving accordingly. These ninja cars make it easy to pull over ONE car at the expense of a visible impact on ALL cars. Whomever came up with the idea, whomever signed off on it, whomever ordered the decals, whomever applied the decals, and whomever sends the vehicle out on the road should all be ashamed of themselves. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem. ____________________________________________________________ Georgeair: "...looking around my house this morning, it's not easily defended for long by two people in the event of real anarchy. The entryways might be slick for the latecomers though...." | ||
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Where was this? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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How’s that song go? Money, money, money...... | |||
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Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
I think they look dumb. But law and order is old news. Odds are in your favor. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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We have many of them in the Houston metro area, multiple counties/jurisdictions. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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"The deals you miss don’t hurt you”-B.D. Raney Sr. |
Got a few around here also. The decals are still reflective but during the daylight they are very subdued. | |||
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Agreed. | |||
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It seems that between radar detectors and Waze, it's pretty hard to catch speeders. I have mixed feelings about unmarked cars. But must admit I about died laughing a couple weeks ago when I was on I85/I40 from Burlington headed to Raleigh. Speed limit is 65. Many cars traveling ~ 75 in middle lane (3 lanes each way on the highway at that point). Cars in right lane were ~70. Mr. Speedy blows by everyone in the left lane (guessing they are doing 85+). Car in the right lane starts speeding up and finally catches up to Mr. Speedy. In about 3 miles, when it was safe, the lights came on. Unmarked Ford Mustang pulls over Mr Speedy. Speak softly and carry a | |||
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We have them here in Michigan. Black SUV's with Police marked in a very dark gray about 1/4 chade lighter than total black. Lighting is also disguised. The lights are in the grill and top corners of the front and rear windows with semi transparent mirrored triangles hiding the light fixtures. Personally if one of these cars lights me up I'm not going to pull over for it. If a Police station is nearby I will drive to that station. If not then they are going to have to call in for a properly marked squad car. In addition when it goes to Court the Judge is going to get an earful. Might also ask the Judge how to file a complaint for impersonating a police officer against the Cop driving that stealth car. I've stopped counting. | |||
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Purveyor of Fine Avatars |
The only time I care about unmarked/stealth cars is when they're not standard issue patrol cars. There's a guy in an unmarked, light blue Ford Fusion who patrols the highways around here and he's constantly pulling people over. If you can't look at that Dodge Charger rolling up behind you and immediately think it's a patrol vehicle, that's on you if you're ticketed. "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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Wait to you find out about unmarked police cars. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Bookers Bourbon and a good cigar |
Arkansas State Police have at least 1 red Dodge Challenger in stealth mode. If you're goin' through hell, keep on going. Don't slow down. If you're scared don't show it. You might get out before the devil even knows you're there. NRA ENDOWMENT LIFE MEMBER | |||
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I always thought they looked like the local body shop laid down ghost flames. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
ASP has several dozen partially unmarked "low profile" cars. They're marked on the right side only. From the front/left/rear they look mostly like a regular Charger.
Hey, knock yourself out. But you might want to read up on Michigan law first, to avoid getting laughed at...
Basically, that cop is a "peace officer". And a peace officer cannot impersonate a peace officer, because he actually is a peace officer. (I mean, obviously...) So a cop driving in a patrol car with subdued decals isn't doing anything that's prohibited in the Michigan law against impersonating an officer. It's one thing to think that it's a shitty practice that you believe should be discontinued. You might find a Judge that agrees with you on that. It's a whole 'nother thing to bring up trying to pursue bogus charges, especially if you don't have any understanding of what "impersonating a police officer" entails by law. That's the cool thing about laws... You can look them up for free, and read them, and do research. Nowadays, you don't even have to leave your house or buy a book to do it. | |||
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When I worked in Ohio, non marked cars could not be used "primarily" for traffic enforcement. From time to time I drove an unmarked car and even stopped people with it. But it was not for traffic enforcement. I have no problem with slick tops, provided they are otherwise fully marked. Once in Pennsylvania I was stopped by PSP using an unmarked... Mazda. The trooper and I had a chat about that. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Durham County Sheriffs Office put one on the road a few months ago. It has went over with less than enthusiasm but over 50% of the residents want everything for free and it is all about defunding the police. (With the new hug a thug program that was enacted, shootings have went up 25+%. When I ran traffic and selective enforcement I always ran a fully marked cruiser. Heck, I had a hard enough time not getting hit with a half dozen lights and marking on my vehicle, I cannot imagine if it had ghost decals. Also, in my experience Officers/Troopers could run a bright pink or green neon vehicle and most people would not pay attention. People are so focused on everything else but driving that catching speeders is no problem. It has been a while since I worked up near Baltimore but the MD Transportation Authority used to run a variety of unusual vehicles. I am not sure if they still do though | |||
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What’s that saying about integrity? Once (locals) become aware of these subtle LE cars, that could provide an effect as well. Perhaps even more so than vehicles that scream cop around. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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My other Sig is a Steyr. |
Seems like most of them have black steel wheels with silver center caps, so... | |||
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Thank you Very little |
They have them all over FL, some cities near you... | |||
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There are plenty of "visible signs of law and order." They're often shot at, too. Obey traffic laws and it doesn't matter, does it? | |||
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