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The glottal stop

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October 10, 2023, 01:22 PM
Gustofer
The glottal stop
Right up there with vocal fry, this is annoying enough to get me to walk away. Two dozen fingernails on a chalkboard.

The glottal stop is not pronouncing the final T in words. Examples would be "Mou in" rather than mountain, or "kih en" rather than kitten, or "bu in" rather than button.

While you may not have known what it is called, I'm certain you've heard it. If you watch Newsmax, one of their (female) weekend hosts uses it frequently. Yes, a professional "journalist" talking like some flunky from the hood.

I'm not certain if these people (mostly female) are trying to sound cool, or British, or what, but they come off sounding like idiots.

Stop it!


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October 10, 2023, 01:40 PM
parabellum
It seems mostly to be a Yankee thing, and an inner city Ebonics thing. Not that it had occurred to me before, but, yes, this affect is found primarily in females.
October 10, 2023, 03:17 PM
Georgeair
Watching F1, there are a lot of the Bri'ish who do this. I'm just it's an affect from one region or the other of that island For a country smaller than Colorado, they sure have a lot of distinctions from place to place.



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October 10, 2023, 06:28 PM
V-Tail
I worked for an international tech company for a few years. Engineers on our team were from Liverpool, Dublin, Belfast, Morocco, France, Spain, Germany, and a bunch of other places.

The "official" language for team meetings, and for documentation, was English.

The team member whose English speech was most difficult for me to understand was an engineer from Glasgow; his glottal stop was extreme.



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October 10, 2023, 11:01 PM
Ripley
Thanks, now I know what to call this affectation.
It seems an odd thing to do, making speech more of an effort, no natural flow. Who needs making things harder?




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October 11, 2023, 04:55 AM
Patriot
It’s also a cockney accent….with the “H”.

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October 11, 2023, 05:06 AM
Blume9mm
so, how does someone who uses the ' glottal stop' pronounce it?


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October 11, 2023, 05:42 AM
trapper189
gla-le op?
October 11, 2023, 10:04 AM
selogic
I live in Louisiana . From one end of the State to the other you will encounter a huge variety of accents , different pronunciations , etc. It's just something I got used to many years ago and I don't even notice it much anymore .
October 11, 2023, 12:48 PM
RogB
Young'uns is an example that's been around for many decades


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April 06, 2024, 09:22 AM
PASig
The adding an “r” to the end of words is what drives me nuts.

Australian English is a particularly good example of this phenomenon.

I watch the show Bluey with my kids so anytime they say words like:

Bingo > becomes Bingoer
No > becomes Noer

Not even sure how this became a thing.


April 06, 2024, 09:23 AM
Anush
quote:
English speech was most difficult for me to understand was an engineer from Glasgow


I too once worked in a small international setting, 6 people in the office, a Japanese, a Peruvian, a Norwegian, a Korean, and a person from Glascow who was impossible to understand when he got excited.


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April 06, 2024, 10:26 AM
Pipe Smoker
In company where “useless as tits on a boar hog” wouldn’t be appropriate, I use “useless as a trailing French ‘t’”.

E.g., “croissant”: krwa · san



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April 06, 2024, 11:02 AM
apprentice
I've noticed the glottal stop, but never had the name for it.

Two other affects that bug me are eXpecially and aXE as in let me axe you a question. Is there a proper name for those as well?
April 06, 2024, 11:15 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by apprentice:

Two other affects that bug me are eXpecially and aXE as in let me axe you a question. Is there a proper name for those as well?
We hear "excape" and "excetera" so frequently that my wife and I have started to use those as a joke.



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April 06, 2024, 03:04 PM
Rawny
quote:
Originally posted by Anush:
quote:
English speech was most difficult for me to understand was an engineer from Glasgow


...a person from Glascow who was impossible to understand when he got excited.

Aye! Ya bastards always be blaming the Scots! Razz

Luckily I watched enough Simpsons. Grounds-keeper Willie taught me how to understand these proud people!

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April 06, 2024, 03:08 PM
.38supersig
Some can only claim a 25 letter alphabet.

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April 07, 2024, 10:39 AM
selogic
If everybody spoke perfect English it would be one less thing to criticize people about . That's no fun .
April 07, 2024, 12:10 PM
mindustrial
My rant: Haf a goot-un.

Is now some kind of substitute for “have a good day”