It's discouraging to read such things. I believe that folks need to walk a mile in others shoes and remember the golden rule first and foremost. It reminds me of Kemal Ataturk response to Australia a few years after the WW! Galipoli massacre where the Turks had cut down Australia's finest as if they were but a field of ripe wheat and they had a scythe.
Ataturk, the commander of the Turkish forces in the Dardanelles and later Turkish's first President reportedly said to the Australians who had heretofor been bitter enemies: "Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives ... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours ... You, the mothers who sent their sons from faraway countries, wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Having lived in Wisconsin and the South as well this strikes a chord. I had not encountered racial prejudice towards Native Americans until I lived in rural Wisconsin. I should not have been surprised.
Posts: 17627 | Location: Stuck at home | Registered: January 02, 2015
From the article: The leaders of Madison, Wisconsin, are manifestly not decent people. God preserve us Southerners from behaving so shamefully. I suppose it won’t be long before they disinter the Confederate bodies and put them on a barge down the Mississippi.
Based on what the city council in Madison is doing, this sounds like an excellent plan. Bring our boys home.
Posts: 2700 | Location: The Carolinas | Registered: June 08, 2010
I grew up in Wisconsin and left as soon as I enlisted in the Navy at 18. Most of the absolutely dumbest people I have ever met were in Wisconsin. It must be something in the water - or the beer.
As a side note, I believe most of drunkest cities in America are in good old Wisconsin. Something like 6 or 7 out of 10. Impressive.
Glad I left young. Mike
I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings when I called you stupid - I thought you already knew - Unknown ................................... When you have no future, you live in the past. " Sycamore Row" by John Grisham
Originally posted by arfmel: Really not surprising from the leftist fuckheads running the communist enclave of Madison.
Very accurate statement.
They don't realize how temporary they are in this place, while a monument is for people over a long period of time. Who are these dust mites to interfere?
Posts: 1372 | Location: WI | Registered: July 07, 2011
Wow. And if these were muslim terrorists instead of confederate soldiers?
I really think you lose your own humanity when you're willing to dehumanize not even your enemies but enemies of your fathers.
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
Posts: 20187 | Location: The Free State of Arizona - Ditat Deus | Registered: March 24, 2011
Although that quote by Ataturk is contested, the sentiment is nevertheless spot on. Know this, though. Whomever wrote it in 1934 would not have done so if the Allies had lost WWI. In other words, the Turks knew who was buttering their bread against a threatening Stalin. Power is sexy.
The takeaway is that these GDCs must be defeated. We have an election coming up next month, and we must use these opportunities to push back the cultural Marxism that has overtaken us of late. Only then can our dead Rest In Peace.
Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus
Posts: 8292 | Location: Utah | Registered: December 18, 2008
A historical society or similar group would probably not have much difficulty getting an injunction against the removal, or alternatively, convincing the state to charge the hell out of anyone who desecrated a grave. This isn't a statute or a monument.. it's a grave marker. Most states have laws protecting graves, for good reason.
The fact that anyone would need to go through those contortions is sickening.
I had at one point wished to visit your city, and learn its history in connection to our PAST. Some great men once said you forget the past you repeat it. Just know that your mistakes on removing a GRAVE MAKER, means you have lost your past, and will lose your future. I could never in good faith encourage anyone to visit a town so close-minded as yours. In fact, I will try my best to help spread how horrid you are, and when you reap these rewards, I hope you remember that when our country fought itself, we at least on both sides behaved properly when it came for the dead. You should be ashamed, and I for one know your ancestors who fought and died in that war not only roll in their graves over your choices, but would try everything they had to prevent such spineless and morally corrupt people from being in the government
That was my kindly worded letter. I felt it was as polite as I could manage.
Used guns deserve a home too
Posts: 783 | Location: North Ga | Registered: August 06, 2016
Another example of the Left trying to remove our history good or bad. This so that in a generation or two no one will know the truth. Look at our schools most don't teach the Constitution nor the bill of rights much less history. This is the total destruction of the American society, a little at a time. Chris