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Originally posted by Herknav:
Understood and agreed. I am trying to figure out how understanding I should be of dude moving in versus when I should go around him. We live in a very rural area, so it’s not like there are multiple ones in the area.

If the former recruiter has PCS'd, he simply isn't there to do the job, is he? And is that his fault?

If his replacement is not on the ground yet, he can't do the job, either, can he? And that's not his fault, either.

The underlap could be the fault of a huge number of things. Maybe somebody died. Maybe somebody got sick. Or, maybe the key mouse at MILPERCEN fucked up and scheduled the PCS dates wrong, or the S1/G1 at the recruiting command fucked up and scheduled the incoming recruiter wrong. Who owns the blame doesn't change your situation, though.

Bottom line, if your local recruiter isn't there then you can either wait 'till somebody is there, or you can carry your potential soldier to someplace where there is a real live flesh and blood recruiter sitting the in the chair that can interface with your potential soldier. Might involve a few hours of driving, but if you're serious about getting her hooked up with a recruiter it can be done for sure.

In 2010 my son was in the process with the AF. Recruiter wouldn't call him back. So Dad, being Dad, contacted the regional recruiting commander (helps to know people who know people) and laid out the problems. Boom, next day this young SSgt was all over it.

My recruiter put on a show that made the USAF look like a resort.
First stop:
WWII era wooden barracks. In Texas. 105 degrees.
Next stop:
Northern tier SAC base. -20 degrees.
Lying bastard!
I vividly recall the hospitality heaped on the guys who got off the bus with golf clubs and tennis rackets.

The Army and the Marines sleep under the stars.

The Navy and Coast Guard navigate by the stars.

The Air Force rates hotels by stars.

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Originally posted by apprentice:
Wait, why hasn't she simply gone to the recruiter's office herself by now?

Maybe there is a detail or two I'm not aware of. However, it seems like her going there in person without anyone else (or their help) would say a lot of the right things in the first place.

She doesn’t have a car, and I don’t see the point of sending someone down there if nobody is there.

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Originally posted by SapperSteel:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Herknav:
If the former recruiter has PCS'd, he simply isn't there to do the job, is he? And is that his fault?

If his replacement is not on the ground yet, he can't do the job, either, can he? And that's not his fault, either.

All I was looking for was an acknowledgement of receipt of my message. Like I said, I wasn’t sure how many people I would torque off by going around the local guy and if there would be any blowback.

Update: Contact made and we’re off. My questions are answered. The rest is up to her. Thanks for letting me vent.

Back in 1976 I was a Senior in high School . All of the recruiters came to school for a week or so and administered the test and scheduled meetings with anyone that was interested . I sat down with an AF recruiter and he was the biggest waste of time ever . I had a question about something and he said he would get back to me with an answer . Never happened . I chose a different career path . Maybe he did me a favor .

Thanks for the update Herknav!

Nice that your efforts paid off.

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
My recruiter put on a show that made the USAF look like a resort.
First stop:
WWII era wooden barracks. In Texas. 105 degrees.
Next stop:
Northern tier SAC base. -20 degrees.
Lying bastard!
I vividly recall the hospitality heaped on the guys who got off the bus with golf clubs and tennis rackets.

Was this him?

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Originally posted by Herknav:
Update: Contact made and we’re off. My questions are answered. The rest is up to her. Thanks for letting me vent.

If she scores well on the ASVAB, she may very well have various recruiters trying to sign her.

Not sure if it's still the case, but the Army had GUARANTEED MOS in writing and with an ASVAB score of 98 I had my pick of MOS's so you can imagine the Army recruiter's confusion when I picked MOS 94B (now 92G) "Foodservice Specialist", aka Cook. "You sure you want to be a COOK?" he says "You can pick any job you want with those scores!"
"Yes, Sergeant, I want to be a chef some day and get some experience."
"Ok" he says "We usually give that job to people who score really poorly on the ASVAB or don't know what they want to do"

I loved it and had a blast doing it.

So if she has something specific in mind, the Army may be the way to go.

I was originally going to go AF, but they could only guarantee a FIELD, not a specific job. The AF recruiter told me I could sign up as a cook, but they could make me a truck driver or security forces by the time I got out of Basic.

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Originally posted by PASig:
"You sure you want to be a COOK?"

Casey Ryback was just a cook.

-Rob

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Originally posted by PASig:
If she scores well on the ASVAB, she may very well have various recruiters trying to sign her.

I can attest to this, at least 20 years ago. In HS we were required to take the ASVAB. My scores came in and I had recruiters waiting in my parents driveway when I got home from school.

They lost interest once they learned of the two bulging discs I had in my back. I regret not pursuing them further and at least attempting to serve.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Not sure if it's still the case, but the Army had GUARANTEED MOS in writing and with an ASVAB score of 98 I had my pick of MOS's so you can imagine the Army recruiter's confusion when I picked MOS 94B (now 92G) "Foodservice Specialist", aka Cook. "You sure you want to be a COOK?" he says "You can pick any job you want with those scores!"
"Yes, Sergeant, I want to be a chef some day and get some experience."
"Ok" he says "We usually give that job to people who score really poorly on the ASVAB or don't know what they want to do"

I loved it and had a blast doing it.

Wow! That is an awesome story and the comments by the recruiter was pretty damn funny.

But your 98 ASVAB score really isn't that impressive. That score is pretty common in Infantry. For an Infantry Platoon that is.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by Herknav:
Update: Contact made and we’re off. My questions are answered. The rest is up to her. Thanks for letting me vent.

If she scores well on the ASVAB, she may very well have various recruiters trying to sign her.

Not sure if it's still the case, but the Army had GUARANTEED MOS in writing and with an ASVAB score of 98 I had my pick of MOS's so you can imagine the Army recruiter's confusion when I picked MOS 94B (now 92G) "Foodservice Specialist", aka Cook. "You sure you want to be a COOK?" he says "You can pick any job you want with those scores!"
"Yes, Sergeant, I want to be a chef some day and get some experience."
"Ok" he says "We usually give that job to people who score really poorly on the ASVAB or don't know what they want to do"
.

I scored a 98, but watched my list go from every job open to me to about 6 due to having a color vision deficiency (partially red-green colorblind).

I ended up in Civil Affairs, and over 8 years later I still love my job.

EDIT: Somehow posted this before I was finished...

I went to BCT with alot of cooks. I remember the Drill Sergeants telling us (them specifically) that the cooks would probably see more direct combat that any of us (mostly support MOS's, artillery, medics, intel, CA, PSYOP, etc) as they were being pulled as gunners on convoys more often that not in Iraq/Afghanistan at the time.

No idea how true that is. The one cook I stayed in touch with is currently fairly renowned, having won multiple awards and I believe was a personal chef to a pretty well known CSM...