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Uppity Helot |
Vigils… I despise them. They have to easily be in the top 5 of the most effete, pussy-ass things a human being could ever take part in. Do they overcome the space time continuum so the deceased can be saved? Do they say fuck cancer? Do they justly confront human evil? No to all. All they do is serve as an ad hoc group therapy session for the powerless and weak. Vigils telegraph that this is the best society can do and it’s total weak sauce. | ||
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Fire begets Fire |
wut? "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Color me confused. Are these like Novenas or death watch get togethers? | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
It's a rite for the living to help them through the process. Did you just lose someone recently? I used to look askance at people who would come and then talk and laugh among themselves. But it's how some people cope. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
One imagines he is referring to the vigils people hold in response to somebody being killified. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Uppity Helot |
Vigils of course are used to deal with a death of a person from natural, accidental or homicidal causes. The event that got me hacked off and the vigil in response was a homicide. No one I knew, just another evil event in a certain evil trend that I am noticing. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
How about the grotesque piles of plush toys purchased from the local CVS, mixed in with lit candles and handwritten sympathy cards? All piled up against a chain-link fence or some burn mark next to the road. I understand that people want to express their sympathy but this stuff with piles of junk which will have to be removed in a short time- yuck. | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
Oh, I see. What we do is … put them in a boat, kick it offshore a bit, and then send a flaming arrow to send it ablaze w blessings on to the halls of Valhalla. Then there’s this Irish tradition thing called a wake … "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I propose the use of dynamite for funereal purposes. Let your friends get rip-roaring drunk and hold a lottery to see who gets to push the plunger and blow your dead carcass into a million bits. | |||
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Cogito Ergo Sum |
Let’s do a rosary, then a wake, then the funeral. | |||
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More persistent than capable |
He had blew eyes. Lick the lollipop of mediocrity once and you suck forever. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
OK, and then we can set the charges? | |||
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You forgot the empty liquor bottles! These trinkets are often found on the streets of Chicago, and many other places, in order to commemorate the untimely passing of a future Rhodes scholar, the next person to go to the moon, cure cancer... Right after they were going to turn their life around. Then there's the memorial t-shirts, often found with a childhood picture on it, like 6th grade graduation, and the recently deceased was 22yoa. (Because the most recent mug-shot photo is somehow in bad taste) The only better picture on the shirts is the one where the dearly departed looks like they were stricken with some disabling malady, probably arthritis- because that's the only way their fingers could twist like that. Such a tragedy for someone with a moniker like "half ounce", "wee-wee", "lil murder", "foo-fop" is taken from us soo soon! They seem to have soo much to offer society. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Been to both. The Irish thing usually ends with a massive headache the next morning. But the Viking one was pretty much the best one I've been to! ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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No ethanol! |
Pyre in the hole!! ------------------ The plural of anecdote is not data. -Frank Kotsonis | |||
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Run Silent Run Deep |
I guess we can label that cremation…as long as you can fit all the pieces into the jar. _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
It depends on who was killified. I would have very different views of vigils for, say, an "aspiring rapper" (Dr. Evil "finger quotes") and an innocent person, especially a child, caught in crossfire. In the end, neither accomplishes anything. The same old shit that led to the deaths keeps going on, unabated. | |||
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Put your ashes in a fireworks mortar. https://heavenlystarsfireworks.com/ _____________________ Be careful what you tolerate. You are teaching people how to treat you. | |||
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I believe Johnny Depp sent off Hunter S Thompson's remains in a cannon. | |||
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Common sense is genius dressed in its working clothes |
Sounds kind of like what Hunter Thompson did. Oops, ZSMICHAEL beat me to it. _______________________ “There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.” ― Frank Zappa | |||
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