Fuck off. Got some nasty shit. Doctor today, copay $25. Pharmacy, $40. Doc says I’m communicable. So be it. Here is a news flash citizens. Put on the mask. I asked the nurse for a stack of them, gave them to me for free. I put on the mask the rest of the day, finished work, went to the gym and lifted, and came home. The Japanese sure get this, why can’t we in the USA? Do it for the chill-ren.

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By far the most common reason people in Japan wear surgical masks out in public is because they're sick. Chances are it's not some life threatening, dangerous and debilitating illness – they're just wearing the mask to be considerate of others and to help contain the spread of germs.

Cultural differences.

Remember the aftermath of Fukushima and compare it to the aftermath of Katrina.

As for me, I haven't been sick in 20+ years, so...

The masks are a good precaution if you are coughing. Equally important is hand washing. You need to break the chain of transmission in as many ways as possible.

Agreed for the most part.
1st shift manager was out Wednesday through Friday last week. He went to the doctor and got antibiotics.
He came back a few days ago Monday.
I handed him a mask when I got in and told him to put it on.
I don't want to get sick, his desk is close to me, and I don't want him getting any of the employees sick either.

Productivity for an entire workplace can be decimated by this.

Managers who see the working sick who wont send people home are almost as bad.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Fuck off. Got some nasty shit. Doctor today, copay $25. Pharmacy, $40. Doc says I’m communicable. So be it. Here is a news flash citizens. Put on the mask. I asked the nurse for a stack of them, gave them to me for free. I put on the mask the rest of the day, finished work, went to the gym and lifted, and came home. The Japanese sure get this, why can’t we in the USA? Do it for the chill-ren.

You do realize that breathing / coughing / etc. are not the only ways to share your cold/flu, right? Did you wear gloves to the gym??? Are you doing exactly what you are preaching against?

Irony of ironies...

Mrs.BurtonRW, RN, is constantly telling me about this or that co-worker (whether at the hospital for 13+ years or in her new urgent care setting, where communicable diseases are much more common than what she used to encounter), all medical professionals, mind you, will come to work sick and make little or no effort to contain their germs, whether it be hand washing or even covering their mouths when they cough, etc.

Go figure.

-Rob

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Originally posted by JimmyRayBob:

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Fuck off. Got some nasty shit. Doctor today, copay $25. Pharmacy, $40. Doc says I’m communicable. So be it. Here is a news flash citizens. Put on the mask. I asked the nurse for a stack of them, gave them to me for free. I put on the mask the rest of the day, finished work, went to the gym and lifted, and came home. The Japanese sure get this, why can’t we in the USA? Do it for the chill-ren.

You do realize that breathing / coughing / etc. are not the only ways to share your cold/flu, right? Did you wear gloves to the gym??? Are you doing exactly what you are preaching against?

Yes I wear full fingered gloves at the gym, always. And I kept getting disposable towels wiping down each station before and after I used with antiseptic spray as well as my gloves. I do this normally so not a big change for me. Only additional precaution I did was wipe my gloves down regularly with same antiseptic spray. I always clean my station before and after I use it, sick or not sick. Too many dirtbags in my gym just leave their sweat and don't clean up anything.

So yes, to answer your damn question, I practice what I preach. Some of us actually do. I hate fucking people who don't take precaution when they are sick. Like I said Japanese culture is different. They have respect for their fellow human beings. Over here it's fuck everyone but yourself, I don't give a damn, deal with it attitude and it's pathetic. Some ass hole just got me sick and cost me money. I slept maybe 2-3 hours last night coughing to holy hell.

A lot of people just aren’t taught from an early age to be considerate of others. I was always taught to wash hands even if not sick and cover my mouth before I cough and nose before I sneeze. When I get sick I stay home from work and avoid eating in restaurants. I just use a drive thru if needed to avoid people when I’m sick.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Yes I wear full fingered gloves at the gym, always. And I kept getting disposable towels wiping down each station before and after I used with antiseptic spray as well as my gloves. I do this normally so not a big change for me. Only additional precaution I did was wipe my gloves down regularly with same antiseptic spray. I always clean my station before and after I use it, sick or not sick. Too many dirtbags in my gym just leave their sweat and don't clean up anything.

That should cover it. Short of going into quarantine, not much more you could do.

Lots of places around me hold you accountable for missing work even with a doctor’s note so I blame management/higher ups for that.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Yes I wear full fingered gloves at the gym, always. And I kept getting disposable towels wiping down each station before and after I used with antiseptic spray as well as my gloves.

I wear full-fingered gloves; pants, rather than shorts; and long-sleeved, rather than tees or tanks, all during cold and flu season. I don't wipe as often, then, because I'm essentially in a head-to-toe environmental hazard suit

Furthermore: I don't go to the gym when I'm sick--or when I think I'm coming down with something. I don't believe in sharing my misfortune.

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Originally posted by Leemur:
Lots of places around me hold you accountable for missing work even with a doctor’s note so I blame management/higher ups for that.

Yup. You can blame short-sighted business people and employees who take advantage of employers who might otherwise be more humane for that problem.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Furthermore: I don't go to the gym when I'm sick--or when I think I'm coming down with something. I don't believe in sharing my misfortune.

I don't either. Which is why I mask up, glove up, and clean everything around me. Unfortunately I don't have a choice to go to the gym or not. I had shoulder surgery in June and have to do my physical therapy, if I want a fully functional, full motion and strength shoulder the rest of my life. And I'm working from home the rest of the week. But I hear all the time that people cannot work from home, and I get that. But you have no reason not to mask and glove up for your work. Who gives a shit that it looks different wearing a mask and plastic gloves. You are being a decent human being instead of a shitbag spreading disease.

How about work places that do not provide sick time but require you to use your PTO if you are sick?

One good cold or a touch of a sore throat and it's no vacation for you this year!

It's tantamount to requiring employees to work when sick.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

So yes, to answer your damn question, I practice what I preach....

No need to get snippy. Read your original post - you didn't mention gloves, etc., so my question is perfectly reasonable. And it was a question, not an accusation. I didn't accuse you of anything - i asked a simple, straight forward question. And I'm glad you wear gloves and take other precautions - you've to got to admit 99% of sick people don't do the same (inconsiderate assholes).

Me? I stay home. But that's either because I'm lazy or I want my wife to get sick (misery loves company). Just kidding about the wife - I sleep in the other room and keep my distance as best i can.

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Originally posted by Pyker:
How about work places that do not provide sick time but require you to use your PTO if you are sick?

One good cold or a touch of a sore throat and it's no vacation for you this year!

It's tantamount to requiring employees to work when sick.

I'm in the same boat. They merged our PTO and medical into one bread roll many years ago. Used to be a few weeks sick time and your vacation time, no longer. It's all in one pile now, and total time was reduced by a week or more depending on how many years you've been there. If I could state where I work, it would really blow your hair back.

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Originally posted by JimmyRayBob:

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

So yes, to answer your damn question, I practice what I preach....

No need to get snippy. Read your original post - you didn't mention gloves, etc., so my question is perfectly reasonable. And it was a question, not an accusation. I didn't accuse you of anything - i asked a simple, straight forward question. And I'm glad you wear gloves and take other precautions - you've to got to admit 99% of sick people don't do the same (inconsiderate assholes).

Me? I stay home. But that's either because I'm lazy or I want my wife to get sick (misery loves company). Just kidding about the wife - I sleep in the other room and keep my distance as best i can.

Sorry JimmyRay, not snippy at you, so my apologies. I'm just pissed at the situation. I'm slammed at work this time of year. It's our busy season from October until the first week of January, and I mean slammed. And I'm trying to complete rehab of my shoulder surgery so I get back to 100% fitness and range of motion so it's a double dose of the bad pimping. For years if I get sick due to someone else spreading I glove/mask up. I buy my nitrile gloves at Costco and have another set of monkey gloves in the garage so I'm always stocked up, gloved and masked up any and every time I leave the house. The only thing fun, is I wear a skull type cap, toboggan, whatever it's called all winter as I keep my hair on a #2 guard 24/7 so like to keep the head warm. Together with the surgical mask and sunglasses in the winter daytime hours, I look like a a damn actor in a movie pulling off a bank heist or robbery. It's definitely fun walking into the grocery store or establishments.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

Sorry JimmyRay, not snippy at you, so my apologies.

No worries!!