You know an AR-15 is actually the receiver, right? No, maybe not #facebookfelony

February 19, 2018, 07:47 PM

http://katu.com/news/offbeat/i...-of-florida-shooting

1) While private citizens are generally at liberty to destroy their own personal property, "destroying" your privately owned AR, in the manner depicted in your video, will not prevent the next mass-shooting unless your plan was to sell your AR to a mass shooter.

2) You didn't actually destroy your AR by sawing off the barrel, rather, you just converted your formerly legally configured 20" SP-1 AR into an un-registered single-shot short-barreled rifle. In other words, in your rush to publicize your own self-righteousness, your ignorance of the actual configuration of your rifle and the law have caused you to, instead, record yourself committing a felony.

While I am sad that an SP-1 was destroyed, if you are the kind of person who would do this, then you're right, you should not own a gun. Please divest yourself of all your other guns too.

February 19, 2018, 08:05 PM

Strambo

Sadly, I clicked on his Facebook link and he went on to chop the upper and lower into pieces...so no felony SBR, just step 1 of destroying it.

That's OK, my wife texted me the other day asking how many AR's I had...2? Sure...2, we can go with that

February 19, 2018, 08:15 PM

bionic218

quote:
Sure...2, we can go with that

Yep!

February 19, 2018, 08:27 PM

LDD

quote:
Originally posted by Strambo:
Sadly, I clicked on his Facebook link and he went on to chop the upper and lower into pieces...so no felony SBR, just step 1 of destroying it.

That's OK, my wife texted me the other day asking how many AR's I had...2? Sure...2, we can go with that

No, he is still a felon. This crime has no intent element, therefore, the proseuction does not have to show that he intended to keep the firearm in an illegal configuration.

At one point (like when he sat the SBR on his lap at the end of the video) he had an SBR.

quote:
26 U.S.C.A. (National Firearms Act or "NFA"):

5845(a)(3)

For the purposes of this chapter, the term "firearm" means a

rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in

length.

5845(c)

The term "rifle" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or

remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed

or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the

explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile

through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger, and

shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to

fire a fixed cartridge.

5841(b)

Each manufacturer, importer, and maker shall register each

firearm he manufactures, imports, or makes. Each firearm

transferred shall be registered to the transferee by the

transferor.

5811(a) and (c)

There shall be levied, collected, and paid on firearms

transferred a tax at the rate of $200 for each firearm

transferred, except, the transfer tax on any firearm classified

as any other weapon under section 5845(e) shall be at the rate of

$5 for each such firearm transferred.

The tax imposed by subsection (a) of this section shall be

payable by the appropriate stamps prescribed for payment by the

Secretary.

5861(c) and (f)

It shall be unlawful for any person to receive or possess a

firearm made in violation of the provisions of this chapter.

It shall be unlawful for any person to make a firearm in violation of the provisions of this chapter.

The fact that he chopped it up more later is just spoliation of evidence. It does not matter whether he intended to chop the gun up more, it only had to exist in the unregistered state at some point in time [while meeting the definition 5845(a)(3)].

Had he had the wherewithal to chop the receiver first, it would have been a complete destruction of the firearm.

February 19, 2018, 09:54 PM

Georgeair

But, otherwise his gun could have "committed a horrific act.".

That's a really incredible gun!

February 20, 2018, 05:33 AM

911Boss

So, he says “If it saves the life of just one child, it will be worth it”

Was he planning on killing children? Did he not trust himself with it? Does he have any other firearms? If he does, will he be destroying those?

Seems to me unless he was planning on killing children he has accomplished nothing. Glad he didn’t dislocate his shoulder patting himself on his back for “doing something” ...

February 20, 2018, 08:56 AM

David W

What a moron.

February 20, 2018, 09:22 AM

rscalzo

quote:
So, he says “If it saves the life of just one child, it will be worth it”

I tend to laugh at their logic.

Would he support a ignition interlock on every vehicle that measures alcohol content in the blood before operation of that vehicle became possible?

Would he support vastly increased penalties for impaired driving and changes in the laws to make it possible to run tests without any probable cause? Sentencing that involved a jail term and a loss of their driving privileges for life?

Chances are, it would save one child.

It might actually save many more than that.

quote:
In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. Of the 1, 1,132 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2015, 209 (16%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.Jun 16, 2017

Think about it... Nancy Pelosi produces a produce that kills significantly more people per years than any manufacturer of any AR or any other rifle. She going to step up and close down?

February 20, 2018, 09:54 AM

pedropcola

I was hoping the sparks might set his deck on fire.

I’m not a huge fan of “gestures”. Accomplish something, do something, or don’t. He accomplished nothing. He saved no one.

February 20, 2018, 11:15 AM

SIG4EVA

One of my libtard friends shared this video. I promptly informed her he didn't destroy anything as the lower is where the value and "rifle" is. He was just being a douche and probably shot the barrel out and needed a new one anyway.

February 20, 2018, 11:21 AM

V-Tail

quote:
Originally posted by rscalzo:
Nancy Pelosi produces a produce that kills significantly more people per years than any manufacturer of any AR or any other rifle.

This might be one of my dense days, but I don't understand the reference to Ms. Pelosi. What product does she produce?

February 20, 2018, 11:51 AM

Georgeair

There are now at least 3-4 folks who have very publicly either sawed up guns so they don't jump up and kill someone or turned in to police department.

It's going to become the next Tide Pod challenge, with similar stupid results but the same participants.

February 20, 2018, 12:15 PM

SgtGold

quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by rscalzo:
Nancy Pelosi produces a produce that kills significantly more people per years than any manufacturer of any AR or any other rifle.
This might be one of my dense days, but I don't understand the reference to Ms. Pelosi. What product does she produce?

Cali is a major wine producer.

February 20, 2018, 02:15 PM

Skins2881

I'm going to start buying my chop saw blades where ever he shops. Turned that thing into SBR in seconds.

Luckily he saved us from all the children he was planning on killing.

February 20, 2018, 02:19 PM

fatmanspencer

Has anyone dropped the warrant on him yet?

February 20, 2018, 02:40 PM

Ripley

"There's a lot of them out there but now there's ~~one~~ none less".

February 20, 2018, 02:52 PM

DrewR

Someone could always report the moron to the feds and see if they will charge him with manufacturing a short barreled rifle... heck, I wonder what kind of legal precedent would be set if they opted not to charge him.

February 20, 2018, 02:59 PM

Jelly

Why do "Liberals" blame inanimate objects for human Actions? Just a few weeks ago local news said the car went out of control crossed the centline and killed 3 people. Like the man or driver behind the wheel did not do it!

February 20, 2018, 04:20 PM

Opus Dei

quote:
Originally posted by Jelly:
Why do "Liberals" blame inanimate objects for human Actions? Just a few weeks ago local news said the car went out of control crossed the centline and killed 3 people. Like the man or driver behind the wheel did not do it!

I'm sure you meant it rhetorically, but one can control people directly or indirectly. Blaming an object achieves the same end with less resistance.

In the case of reckless driving of all sorts, push for autonomous vehicles. In the case of gun violence, first appeal to emotion for "reasonable restrictions" and incrementally proceed from there.