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Armed and Gregarious |
Despite what the Rudolph movie would have you believe, the name is Donder, not Donner. The poem, "A Visit From St. Nicholas," better known as " Twas the Night Before Christmas, " by Clement C. Moore, was written more than a century before anyone created the story of Rudolph. Moore gave the original list of the eight reindeer, and the name is Donder. https://twasthenight.org/poem/ " . . . More rapid than eagles his coursers they came, And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name; “Now, DASHER! now, DANCER! now, PRANCER and VIXEN! On, COMET! on CUPID! on, DONDER and BLITZEN! To the top of the porch! to the top of the wall! Now dash away! dash away! dash away all!”" ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | ||
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That's just the Flomax talking |
Oh, no! My childhood was all a lie. | |||
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Freethinker |
Well then, if we’re going to insist on the original Dutch for thunder and lightning, it should be Donder and Bliksem. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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Member |
At least it wasn't "Dander". The crap really shows up on a red suit. === I would like to apologize to anyone I have *not* offended. Please be patient. I will get to you shortly. | |||
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Eating elephants one bite at a time |
This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
I like to say no knowledge is ever useless, but this comes pretty close. | |||
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goodheart |
For some reason Clem Moore’s autocorrect changed Donner to Donder. Donner und Blitzen are Thunder and Lightning in German, as the OP I’m sure knows well. I rest my case. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Donder got changed to Donner when Ze Germans got a hold of it. | |||
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My other Sig is a Steyr. |
Sure. Next thing you are going to tell us is that on The 12 Days of Christmas I was supposed to get five ringed pheasants? I can't take birds to the pawn shop. | |||
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Savor the limelight |
Dunder and Blixem from the original 1823 publication. | |||
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Freethinker |
Based on an Internet translator and my German/English dictionary, Blitzen means “flash,” as in flashbulb, not lightning. Blitz is lightning, but of course the “en” of Blitzen is necessary to make it rhyme with Vixen. Left alone in the Dutch, none of that would have been necessary. Ah, the things we learn here. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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Repressed |
Where I grew up, they were "Hey You, Who'se it, What's it, Whatchamacallit, Git, Scram, Sunovabitch, and Dammit!" -ShneaSIG Oh, by the way, which one's "Pink?" | |||
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Savor the limelight |
I thought those were your siblings. | |||
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Member |
Its 'Donner.' Here's the documentation: It's like, Santa Claus used ta have this really charp chort, man, y'know? It was lowered to da ground, had twice-pipes, candy-apple red and button top. Oooo, clean! TC: Hey, that sounds like a hip snowmobile, man. CM: No, no, it wasn't a snowmobile; it was a sled, y'know. One of those big sleds, y'know? And he used ta have it pulled by some reindeers, y'know, like, reindeers? TC: Some what, man? CM: Some reindeers, y'know. He used ta hook them onto da sled and then he used ta stand up inside da sled and hold on to da reins and then call out their names, like, "On Donner! On, Blitzen! On Chewy! On Tavo! C'mon, Becto!" And then, the reindeers used ta take off into da sky and fly across da sky, man! TC: Wow, man! That's far out, man! ____________________ | |||
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Yeah! And then, when they flied across da sky, they used ta come down to places like, oh, Chicago, L.A., Nueva York and Pacoima and all those places, y'know, and then land on top of people's roofs and then 'ol Santa Claus would make himself real small, y'know, like, a real small guy, and he'd come down da chimney and then he would give you all da stuff that he made, man. And... dig this, man... he did it all in one night, man! TC: Hey, just a minute, man. Now, how'd he do that, man? CM: Oh, well, man, he took da freeway. How else, man? TC: No, man. No, man, how'd he do all that other stuff, man? Like, how'd he make himself small, man. And, how'd he, like, how'd he get the reindeer off the ground, man? CM: Oh, well, man, he had some magic dust, man. TC: Some magic dust? CM: Yeah, magic dust, y'know? He used ta give a little bit to da reindeer, a little bit to Santa Claus, a little bit more for Santa Claus, a little bit more... TC: And this would get the reindeer off, man? CM: Aw, got 'em off, man? Are you kidding, man? They flew all da way around da world, man! TC: Hey, that's far out, man! Hey, how come I've never met this dude, man? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tb4ck9AY_Y ____________________ | |||
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Repressed |
Some of them are cousins! -ShneaSIG Oh, by the way, which one's "Pink?" | |||
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Moving cash for money |
What about Olive the other Reindeer? "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout" R.I.P. R.A.H. Ooga Chakka Hooga Hooga Ooga Chakka Hooga Hooga NRA Basic Rifle Instructor Red Cross First Aid/CPR/AED Adult/Child/Infant Instructor Red Cross Wilderness First Aid Instructor | |||
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In Deo Fiducia Nostra |
Well, there goes the party... SigEd P220ST .45ACP P229 .40SW P229 9mm P239 9mm P232SL NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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Freethinker |
Oh, boo, hiss! I’d never heard that one before (and I just figured it out), but now I’m stuck with it. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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Trophy Husband |
According to Wikipedia and the book of Hoyle It all depends whether you are reading the book or singing the song. I get what the OP stated. In "Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer" the names Donner and Blitzen are correct. "You know Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Vixen Comet and Cupid and Donner and Blitzen" I suppose the songwriter took artistic freedom. Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer lyrics So boys and girls what we were taught as we grew up is actually correct as well. We sang the song more than we read the book. Now we can all breathe a sigh of relief. | |||
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