Dick's oversold Troy rifles on a Black Friday special. Seems the price was too good. It was another great excuse for Dick's to stop selling MSRs (evil rifles). They cancelled a metric shit ton of preorders to avoid a loss.

I didn't even know about all the firearm skulduggery, in fact I didn't know they had a gun counter until I wandered up there. I mean, technically they don't have a gun counter, because I don't know what you'd call it.

I'll probably still shop there for boxing/strength training stuff. Maybe.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
"I don't know, it just says that someone with your name tried to buy a gun 6 times in NY State, and was a felon, so we can't sell you the gun right now, you'll have to come back."

That's about the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.

I guess a guy with a name like "Bob Smith" would be in a world of hurt trying to ever buy a gun there.

I've been into Dick's stores maybe, maybe a half-dozen times in my life. I've found them to be essentially worthless. I don't think I've ever bought anything in one of them.

Last time was I was looking for a certain jacket. They didn't have exactly what I wanted, but they had something that was really cool. Also exceedingly expensive. (A hallmark of Dick's, IME.) It was on clearance, as the season for it was coming to a close. Told the sales droid that if they could see their way clear to discounting it a little >< further, I could maybe see my way clear to get it off their rack for them. Nope. "Ok, bye."

The primary mistake:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by arcwelder76:
I stopped by Dicks to get some sporting goods./QUOTE]

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
[QUOTE]Why do lesbians shop at Academy?

I see whatyou did there.

Arcwelder , do you have a Concealed Carry Permit ? I bought two guns from Academy this past weekend and they do not run the background check if you have one . I would assume it's the same where you live .

Pricks Sporting Goods.........

My prediction is that they will follow Gander Mountain.

They are not a sporting goods store, they are a clothing store that sometimes sells other things.

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Originally posted by selogic:
Arcwelder , do you have a Concealed Carry Permit ? I bought two guns from Academy this past weekend and they do not run the background check if you have one . I would assume it's the same where you live .

They didn't do a NICS check? I find that odd.

I live in MA, and a NICS plus a MIRC state check happen, you can't buy anything without at least an FID card. If you have a Class A LTC, which I do, it means you can buy "large capacity" firearms, and walk out of the store with it.

If I walked into an Academy, they'd at least do the checks I've mentioned, not the BS that Dicks made up internally.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

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Originally posted by selogic:
Arcwelder , do you have a Concealed Carry Permit ? I bought two guns from Academy this past weekend and they do not run the background check if you have one . I would assume it's the same where you live .

They didn't do a NICS check? I find that odd.

I live in MA, and a NICS plus a MIRC state check happen, you can't buy anything without at least an FID card. If you have a Class A LTC, which I do, it means you can buy "large capacity" firearms, and walk out of the store with it.

If I walked into an Academy, they'd at least do the checks I've mentioned, not the BS that Dicks made up internally.

Some states are like that, no NICS required if you have a valid carry license. Texas is this way in fact, though I believe a store can still run one if they choose to do so. I've never had that happen but know a few that it did happen to.

I, like selogic, have bought a couple of firearms from Academy and they don't run the check if you have a carry license. Or at least that's the case around here anyway.

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Some states are like that, no NICS required if you have a valid carry license. Texas is this way in fact, though I believe a store can still run one if they choose to do so. I've never had that happen but know a few that it did happen to.

I, like selogic, have bought a couple of firearms from Academy and they don't run the check if you have a carry license. Or at least that's the case around here anyway.

Same here in Mississippi. No check if CCW permit holder.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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Some states are like that, no NICS required if you have a valid carry license. Texas is this way in fact, though I believe a store can still run one if they choose to do so. I've never had that happen but know a few that it did happen to.

I, like selogic, have bought a couple of firearms from Academy and they don't run the check if you have a carry license. Or at least that's the case around here anyway.

Same here in Mississippi. No check if CCW permit holder.

GA too. They just photocopy our permit and license, check our paperwork and away we go.

I've never bought a gun at Dicks so I don't know if our do their own internal background checks. I doubt I'll ever find out.

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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
GA too. They just photocopy our permit and license, check our paperwork and away we go.

I've never bought a gun at Dicks so I don't know if our do their own internal background checks. I doubt I'll ever find out.

It's possible that a NICS check occurs, because it typically happens while I fill out the 4473. License and permit are photocopied as well. I could be wrong, but I thought that NICS was part of buying a gun from an FFL, and federal law.

I'd be curious to know if they weren't doing them, or just calling them in later or what. Or if state law has an effect on what I thought was a federal requirement for FFL sales.

What I'm certain of, is that Dicks has it's own internal nonsense. A NICS denial doesn't come back with the kind of info the clerk told me.

As 41 and eTripper alluded to; back when a lot of their current stores were Galyan's, the shopping experience was totally different. Catered more to the outdoor sports and activities than Dick's. Dick's is a golf and team sports, athletic apparel store that carries some camping, hunting and fishing gear.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

It's possible that a NICS check occurs, because it typically happens while I fill out the 4473. License and permit are photocopied as well. I could be wrong, but I thought that NICS was part of buying a gun from an FFL, and federal law.

I'd be curious to know if they weren't doing them, or just calling them in later or what. Or if state law has an effect on what I thought was a federal requirement for FFL sales.

What I'm certain of, is that Dicks has it's own internal nonsense. A NICS denial doesn't come back with the kind of info the clerk told me.

That scenario is a possibility in certain cases though I can tell you with absolute certainty, my last 2 purchases there hasn't been a check unless it happened after I left the store. To be honest, I'd be kind of surprised if that's the case.

The way Texas looks at it is that if you have a carry license, you've already gone through the necessary vetting. Basically you fill out the 4473, they make copies of you driver and carry licenses, add the information to their part on the form and you're out the door.

ETA: The pawn shop I've used for my last 2 transfers charges $10 if you have a license and $15 if you don't. Them not having to spend time with the Feds is the exact reason why, it goes faster.

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Originally posted by CD228:
It's been a long time since I worked for an FFL, but from what I remember, You would get told proceed, Denied or delayed when you did the NICS check. I was never given a reason why the individual was delayed or denied. So the whole "Felon in NY" story is somewhat suspicious. Also, if the Feds denied you, you got a transaction number so you could appeal it. I don't know how it goes with state based background checks.

ditto here in Va, (you contact VSP for by phone or online for background checks, )

approved, delayed, denied,
usually you get a phone call and asked to delay the buyer if they need to come visit and have a chat (meaning usually pic them up)

we (dealers) do not know and will not be told why you are delayed, or denied,