From what I understand CO2 is what the oil companies in concert with fracking are using to revive the west Texas oil fields. I think Occidental Petroleum is leading in this field.

Correct they are using some for fracking. Ironically they may be getting paid to do so, I need to check.

what I don't get is I remember being taught in school that plants 'breath' CO2.... so, would not us putting more in the atmosphere be a good thing for them? I realize that even though Carbon Dioxide is not poisonous if you get too much it displaces the oxygen that we do need,.. (Remember the movie Apollo 13?). still I'm having a problem with this "too much CO2 being released".. now as for the real crap we are still spewing out...

Yes, CO2 benefits plants and its beginning to be noticed.

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From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/g...ation-greening-earth

Environmentalists are quick to try and deflect stating no, no, no this is due to Chinese farming and aggressive tree planting campaigns.

I've been talking about CO2 capture methods and how businesses are beginning to employ such methods at significant cost. Its really interesting and innovating stuff. Do I think its necessary to cut man's emissions? No, I don't.

We are responsible for 4 percent of CO2. Total CO2 is .04 percent of the atmosphere. If we were to shut it all down it would make little difference.

So what's going on? Decades of the media beating this drum has more and more people believing. To the point the Republican party is beginning to listen. Now some (Ben Shapiro) cede the point that man's CO2 is causing it, but they part ways on what to do. They support innovation and technology solutions because most of this is coming from oil companies and subsidiaries, and that's who tend to support them. The oil companies are doing this because they see how the population is moving, and they want their companies in 50 years. Democrats support lock down, regulation, government, and forcing renewables down our throats because those are the people who support them. Its not about the problem. It's about money. Billions of dollars worth.

To solve this problem it means giving up one of their largest money raising apparatuses every devised by the political class.

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Originally posted by goose5:
It's about money.

That and power (not the energy kind).

As for money, I read the other day that Algore's company is worth $37 billion dollars. That should be criminal.

"Teslas may take up to 30,000-40,000 gallons of water, maybe even more, to extinguish the battery pack once it starts burning"

LINK

This is the highest estimate I've seen. Most of the articles indicate it can take several days and around 14,000 gallons of water to put them out.

I love that guy who did the OP video. Super sharp, interesting and funny character, some of his earlier vids of piecing together junked Teslas are worthy watches as well.

The environmental catastrophe that is electric cars will be in full swing when the billions of batteries being produced now need to be recycled. I love EV's although I've only driven the Bolt and my wife's dual motor Tesla that has some scary/fun insanely fast acceleration. Merging onto freeways is a different ballgame.

Global Warming? We had frost warnings in the Yoop last week.

Half the country rolled their eyes when Trump wanted to buy Greenland. Well, he was correct about that too - just wait and see.

Best idea since the Louisiana purchase.

Is water used to put out car fires currently? They'll have to use foam.

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Most of the articles indicate it can take several days and around 14,000 gallons of water to put them out.

I don't mind the idea of electric cars, for those who want them. I just want the market to decide, not unelected bureaucrats led (if you can call it "leading") by a desiccated old doofus.

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Typical liberal horseshit.

Live in a utopian dream, legislate your fantasies with no regard for reality at all.

Electric cars are cool technology, they may well in the far future be the dominant vehicle type, or some form of hybrid. If someone wants one, they should buy one, I have nothing against them. But it will be a long time, they aren't ready for prime time for 1000 reasons. Even the CEO of Toyota is starting to say what we all know, calm the "F" down on these, they will not be replacing ICE any time soon.

The Japanese government is so worried about Toyota going bankrupt that they basically forced them to take a billion dollar loan to work with China building a battery plant because they know that since they are so far behind the industry they could go bankrupt and kill Japan's economy.

It doesn't sound possible and I'm sure since a large group of people on this site think Toyota is infallible it could never happen but the video I watched showed that Toyota has massive financial issues and owes not only more money than any business in Japan but owes more money than any business in the world.