December 19, 2017, 12:19 PM
GustoferSubcontractors
More specifically unreliable subcontractors.
I've got a plumber who was supposed to meet me at the house last Wednesday at 1400 to finish running the water to the new shop (job is half done). No show, no call. Other than being unprofessional, it wasn't a huge deal as there really was no big hurry to get the job done other than the fact that I have a huge five foot deep ditch running from the house that needs to get filled back in before it all freezes. I call him first thing Monday morning and he tells me he can't get out until Wednesday as a few other jobs "came up". Really? They "came up" after you had started (and didn't finish) my job and you put me on the back burner, why? Now, we've got below zero temps coming at the end of the week and I'm left hoping the jerk actually shows Wednesday and doesn't put it off again.
Then, the concrete guy was supposed to show up this morning to do the final leveling and put in the rebar for my floor so they could pour tomorrow. I get a call this morning saying that since it is snowing, they are having a hard time with the other job they are on and won't be able to get to me today. Mind you, the job they are on is an outdoor job and mine is indoors. So...why not put off the other job until it stops snowing, do mine today indoors out of the weather, and pour tomorrow as planned? No, that wouldn't make any sense.
I just want this damn thing done and I'm tired of trying to plan around unreliable people.
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December 19, 2017, 12:58 PM
LeemurIt’s the same everywhere.
December 19, 2017, 01:25 PM
GeorgeairI spoke with a lady yesterday who had contracted for hardwood refinishing 3 months ago. 5 weeks ago the dude gave her the go ahead to prep for start in a few days, she ripped out the counters, cabinets, etc. in her kitchen.
Floor guy shows up two weeks later after many calls, works for an hour and leaves. A week+ later he shows up again on a Saturday after she keeps calling. Sands floor for 2 hours, declares himself out of sandpaper and leaves again, no return calls or work since....
And my wife wonders why I refuse to ever embark on building a new home....
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December 19, 2017, 02:18 PM
LS1 GTOMy wife (who's ex was a contractor) has learned a few tricks.
Next time you do a contract provide a finish late deduction into the contract. About 5 to 10 percent per week (non-prorated) - weather related delays should not be held against them and so indicated into the contract.
If they balk at the stipulation, you know their ethic.

Every time my wife's ex balked at the stipulation, he lost the job. It was well known around the small town he couldn't finish on time.
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December 19, 2017, 03:43 PM
RCYes very frustrating
There is lots of work out there and not a lot of extra skilled help
Some contractors will over book so they don't have any down time
Your plumber heard the words no big hurry and took it to heart
The concrete guy at least made the call to tell you the situation
The only way to guarantee any loyality or performance is to get some type of performance written in to the contract, references are also important along with not necessarily taking the low bid
Good Luck with your project, hopefully this gives some others who read this post, some ideas for their own project
RC
December 19, 2017, 05:53 PM
LS1 GTOquote:
Originally posted by RC:
The only way to guarantee any loyality or performance is to get some type of performance written in to the contract...
Performance based contract/stipulation, that's what it's called.
And I work with these all week long.

Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
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December 19, 2017, 07:27 PM
sigmonkey Please refrain from putting profanity in your thread titles
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TBHquote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Please refrain from putting profanity in your thread titles
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