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Am I the jerk here? (gun sale related)
April 05, 2024, 02:44 PM
pedropcolaAm I the jerk here? (gun sale related)
A lot of you guys would say yes without even hearing the tale so I know my feelings won’t be spared. lol
Another gun forum. I am not a big gun seller. In fact, I’ve never sold a gun that wasn’t either ftf or consignment at my lgs. Never shipped a gun in my life for sales purposes. Don’t ever really want to either. Guy has a thread about wanting a certain gun. I’ve got 3 of them, 2 NIB. I used to collect them now I don’t even shoot them anymore. I post on his thread I have a couple if he’s interested. He never responds. I kind of forget about it because I don’t really care.
I then get a PM from a different guy right before the Easter weekend. He asks for pictures and price even though his first message says he will pay a premium so I figured he would make an offer but he doesn’t. I said ok but then completely forget about it over the weekend because our middle daughter and grandkids came the next day and stayed through Monday. Totally my fault I forgot over the holiday.
So on Tuesday he reaches out. I apologize and tell him I will drag them out of the safe and get some pictures. The next day I’m getting it all together and realize I have no way to send photos because this forum doesn’t have emails and I can’t attach photos to a PM. So I ask him what the best way to get him the pictures is. He sends his phone number. This is Wednesday.
This is where it gets wonky. Thursday morning I am about to send a bunch of pictures to his phone but I happen to go on the forum and see he sent me a message. It is a smarmy one, about maybe he doesn’t want to do business with me since this doesn’t seem like a priority. He isn’t wrong but I didn’t appreciate the tone or content of his message so I respond simply. “Ok, don’t worry about it then”. He then sends a nasty message calling me out and saying it is better to find out I’m a flake now then when it’s too late.
I responded less than ideally to that response.
I know I could have been quicker to send the photos but if you aren’t comfortable with something just say “never mind”. The two snarky responses annoyed me. I don’t need his money but I certainly didn’t need his attitude.
Now my responses after that were childish and mean spirited. Those are 100% on me and I shouldn’t have done those. That isn’t the question here though.
Judge me.
April 05, 2024, 02:57 PM
SpinZoneBased on your side of the story, Fuck him. Selling the gun to him was not your priority. If you has a WTS ad going then yes, I would expect you to be on the ball but if I am cold calling you about your response to someone else’s WTB ad, I’m am not going to expect to have a deal wrapped up in under a week. Some people would have it ready, but I wouldn’t necessarily expect it.
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April 05, 2024, 04:02 PM
HRKIt is better off that you found out he's a problem before going into a deal, probably the same kind of person who'd look for some minor flaw to get money back.... and still call you a flake.
April 05, 2024, 04:29 PM
sourdough44It’s been hard for a long time, shipping to someone unknown.
About 10 years ago I sold a Browning BAR 30-06 to a guy in upstate NY, he saw my ad in Armslist. I told him he better be careful, long distance, private seller.
He sent me the $$, after it cleared I sent him the gun. I’d much rather at least see some forum history.
Once someone gets a little flaky, I’ll wish them well & good by.
April 05, 2024, 04:37 PM
92fstechYep, I'd be done with that deal before it started. He's demonstrated that he's an impatient jerk at the very least, and like HRK said, the transaction is likely to only go downhill from here. You weren't looking to sell, and don't have to, especially not to this guy. I'd just move on.
quote:
I responded less than ideally to that response.
I'll admit that made me laugh a bit, and also kinda disappointed that I missed out on witnessing an epic pedropcola ass-chewing, lol. I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Some people don't pick up on subtlety very well and just need to be told. It's their learning style

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April 05, 2024, 04:54 PM
tatortoddHe was trying to snake a gun you offered to someone else, he asks for pictures via a communication protocol that doesn't allow pictures, and then has no patience.
I hope you told him to shove it up his ass sideways.
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity
DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. April 05, 2024, 04:55 PM
dking271I’d be done with that deal also. I get it sometimes people think they’re doing you a favor by purchasing your stuff. I probably would have kept the snarky stuff to myself and moved on. People like that aren’t worth me wasting any of my precious time.
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April 05, 2024, 05:00 PM
pedropcolaI only regret my pedropcola-esque responses. 92fstech you are being a bad influence on me. Lol.
As my wife pointed out, I am trying to be more patient with people who annoy me. Para hasn’t had to get on my case for awhile. I’m swearing less (a little bit less lol). I’m trying to be better. This was a relapse.
April 05, 2024, 05:08 PM
sigmonkeyCertainly you are a butthole.
However, not this time.
(I think your just a left brain, engineering type with very rigid standards.)
So, your fine in my book.
Spinzone's opening sentence, is where I'd be.
The guy was unsolicited and reached out to you, therefor he is on your time.
You had no duty to be on his.
In such case, he's prevaricating about the moustrap, and in such a place, he should have nibbled nimbly.
No cheese for him.
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! April 05, 2024, 05:43 PM
pedropcolaHigh praise indeed sigmonkey!
April 05, 2024, 05:56 PM
airbubbauncomfortable with someone who's going to send payment before you ship, when you set the selling price if he's interested!!
i guess you didn't really want to make the sale!!
April 05, 2024, 06:29 PM
DoctorSoloMore like uncomfortable dealing with someone who lacks any kind of manners or character.
I like how tatertodd phrased the ideal response. Seems appropriate for the occasion.
April 05, 2024, 06:32 PM
12131He gave you his cell on Wed. You're about to send pics to his phone on Thu AM. He, instead, threw a hissy fit? Yeah, I would have said
FUCK.YOU..
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April 05, 2024, 07:41 PM
bald1Would be interesting to see what AI
(given the front page thread here:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/1110038705 )
would do rewriting the OP's "childish" brush off message.
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
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April 05, 2024, 08:12 PM
pedropcolaI doubt AI can swear like a sailor. lol
April 05, 2024, 08:39 PM
selogicquote:
Originally posted by 12131:
He gave you his cell on Wed. You're about to send pics to his phone on Thu AM. He, instead, threw a hissy fit? Yeah, I would have said FUCK.YOU..
If that's how it went down then he's a jerk and you are right to just move on .
April 05, 2024, 09:08 PM
pedropcolaWell, I don’t lie. I have lots of faults. Dishonesty isn’t one of them. When I wrote this I kept going back to the received messages to make sure I got the chronology right. Weird thing over there is I have all received messages but it won’t keep my responses. Weird. So I backed my timeline against his messages, because I basically responded one for one with a single exception about how to send the pics.
April 05, 2024, 10:25 PM
sunburnRe: the potential buyer
Be yourself
The worst advise you can give some people
Lick the lollipop of mediocrity once and you suck forever.
April 05, 2024, 11:25 PM
trapper189Yes, but no.
In cases like yours, I say “I’m the asshole” in my best Jack Nicholson impersonation. I know I’m an asshole, but 9 out 10 people that have called me such were projecting.
April 06, 2024, 11:32 AM
Rey HRHNot enough information for me.
I can't really see the urgency of a gun assuming he has at least one.
My living room tv has been out at least since Feb 22. I'm supposed to get a replacement but the transport company hasn't contacted me yet after the last email from them on Mar 25. And my wife has been watching the tv in my office even though there's an exact same tv in the bedroom.
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