April 25, 2023, 06:10 AM
Blume9mmWater Heater
You are probably right mikeyspizza.... I almost posted a few days ago how to change out a gas water heater but then deleted it before hitting post.
another part of the new higher efficiency units is they usually don't last as long. For good or bad manufacturing has gotten to the point that they can pretty much know how long their product is going to last for a large majority of them....
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April 25, 2023, 06:26 AM
Excam_Manquote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
another part of the new higher efficiency units is they usually don't last as long.
** only if installed by a 'low bidding hack' **
April 25, 2023, 06:37 AM
Ronin1069quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
Ronin, you still haven’t said what went out on your heater. Did it start to leak? Does your city install back flow preventers at your service connection? What is your water pressure? Do you have a properly installed and functioning expansion tank?
They were in-and-out in about an hour.
Guys had to move a copper pipe which required cutting it and then sweating it; glad I didn’t have to mess around with that myself.
Re: Cause
The water in this city literally rotted through the bottom of the tank, I had an ‘even’ puddle of water around the perimeter of the tank…
There is very little that I/we in the city can do to prevent this…just sucks. I’ve been through 3 water softeners in 25 years here.
I think I had mentioned in a prior page that I had been flushing the tank annually and that the repair guys recommended I do it every 6 months instead. Maybe I’ll get 8 years out of it instead of 6.
This one I had to pay for, so the next one will be the warranty replacement. And then 6 years later I’ll have to buy one again…what a game.
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April 25, 2023, 01:39 PM
Excam_Manquote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
I'm curious to know how the heater is failing, all of them leaking?
Well system or city water?
How high is your water pressure?
Backflow preventer installed?
Expansion tank?
Brand?
Even with hard water 6 yrs is too short.
April 25, 2023, 07:59 PM
preten2bI was replacing an electric heater every 5 years too, because of hard water. Even the 10 year gua-run-teed would go, and it was buy one, get next one. Then they stopped making that model. Usually the deposits would build up on bottom up to level of bottom element, then zap. Tried draining it often, and found out the spigot on bottom would just leak instead
I have installed softener and am now on year 6, so we'll see.
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April 26, 2023, 06:44 AM
Blume9mmquote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
quote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
another part of the new higher efficiency units is they usually don't last as long.
** only if installed by a 'low bidding hack' **
I'm more familiar with furnaces than hot water units and specifically gas more than oil... but from my limited experience both used to last 20 or more years back up until the mid 90's then the newer ones would not usually make it 10years... now I think 10 to maybe 15 is the limit on them.
(I could be wrong I was twice before)
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April 26, 2023, 12:06 PM
Excam_Manquote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
I'm more familiar with furnaces than hot water units and specifically gas more than oil... but from my limited experience both used to last 20 or more years back up until the mid 90's then the newer ones would not usually make it 10years... now I think 10 to maybe 15 is the limit on them.
If you're not getting 20+ yrs out of new HVAC equipment, you better find yourself a better more reliable company.
And I'm talking about and including high efficiency equipment manufactured and installed today.
April 30, 2023, 11:03 PM
Rey HRHquote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
I'm probably stepping wrong here but can't for the life of me see why the average person with some mechanical skills can't replace a water heater. The key is to get the same unit and then if the old one was installed right there is very little work to the change out.
But then every 'man' should recognize his limitations... I sure have more than a few.
You overestimate the average person. I consider myself average and even considering I was a machinist mate in the navy dealing with pipes, valves, and feed tanks, I wouldn't want to replace a water heater. For one thing, they look unwieldy. For another thing, I don't solder pipes.
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