Well, I don't like to complain ( ALOT) but I've just had it. I have been a Vortex fan for a while, I must report I have a bad taste in my mouth. I purchased a 1x4x24 crossfire II scope for my Henry 45-70 a little over a year ago. Took my rifle and scope, (after a thorough sight-in) and a hog hunt shortly after. Rechecked zero at the range on the hunting property and noticed the crosshairs aren't aligned properly. Damn....... I had to borrow a rifle to hunt...... back to Vortex it went.

Vortex returned the scope with the crosshairs "fixed" with a notation that nothing was wrong with it.... OK.....

Back on a Hog hunt this past weekend and after a re-check/zero firing, the damn things went out of alignment AGAIN. Needless to say I wasn't happy but at least I had brought a shotty to back me up in case of Murphy. Back to Vortex you go and I'm done.....no more Vortex Will keep everybody posted.

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Well darn. I was looking at a couple of Vortex options. Overall they get decent reviews.

Do you think the .45-70 is too much recoil for the scope?

I am more put off by Vortex's response than anything else. I can see how a unit could be less then perfect but they should handle it in a way that keeps the customer happy. "There's nothing wrong with it" jeez.

Any chance the optic is rotating in your rings?

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Originally posted by rsbolo:
Well darn. I was looking at a couple of Vortex options. Overall they get decent reviews.

Do you think the .45-70 is too much recoil for the scope?

I am more put off by Vortex's response than anything else. I can see how a unit could be less then perfect but they should handle it in a way that keeps the customer happy. "There's nothing wrong with it" jeez.

The Crossfire II is the cheapest optic that they sell.....

Regardless of brand, you get what you pay for.


I would like to see exactly what the included note said, just out of curiosity.


I smashed the Vortex branded throw lever off of my scope on a dump barrel. They shipped me a brand new one with a return envelope for the broken one.


My experiences have been only positive but my only 'cheap' vortex is the little SparcAR.

Given that you cheaped out as much as possible on the scope, tell us about your rings and base.

Yes, this is their cheapest offering but was advised by Vortex, this is rated for the recoil. The
rings are Vortex and we’re torqued to an 17 lb inch. They were also lapped. They did not rotate. What some say about “ cheaping out”, I say why not try out the least expensive “ available” offering applicable to that caliber with the “ VIP” warranty. Hell, I contacted the company before the purchase and was assured the scope would serve me well on the exact rifle. This 45-70 started out as an experiment to see if that caliber platform was for me and my Hog hunting. Hence, Vortex.

When offered this kind of warranty why not put it to the test, I can ALWAYS upgrade later when I find I’m going to keep the whole rig, which I am. I WILL be upgrading the scope. This is just anerving........

Sounds to me no more gun hunting for you Use a knife I think there's a guy here on the forum that makes them. Just Kidding. I'd return it again with a strong but polite letter that this is the second time. While the scope you have is the cheapest in their line that really shouldn't matter it still should be a useable scope and stay on target plus their guarantee is Lifetime. A 45/70 Gov has a little kick but it shouldn't knock the scope off, it's not a 22 cal scope. Chris

My thoughts also Chris, thanks LOL!!

If your mounts are solid, next thing to look at is zeroing.

Your problem seems to manifest itself at different locations. Are you supporting the front of the rifle with a different means, ot at a different spot? Having a rest under the handguard versus a sandbag on the tube can change your poi.

Sounds to me like his reticle actually broke free.


If it broke twice, I can understand being irritated. But I don't see how you judge an entire product lineup by testing the cheapest offering.

That's true for almost any product.

Don't use cheap optics for important purposes. That's true for any brand.

Yeah, what kinda crazy plan is it to buy the cheapest bid for an important need? What if you were going to war, would you still want the cheapest bid then? Oh, wait. Nevermind.

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Yeah, what kinda crazy plan is it to buy the cheapest bid for an important need? What if you were going to war, would you still want the cheapest bid then? Oh, wait. Nevermind.

That’s what we call military grade.

Hope you get it worked out.
My son bought a Sig 229 in an expensive configuration. When we took it out to break it in, we would point at the target and hit the ground.
He sent it back and when he got it back, they said nothing was found wrong. It had a test target in it..
We took it out and shot it and it was dead on.

Replaced, refunded, repaired, don’t care, I’m going with a new scope. CALLING ALL 45-70 SHOOTERS! Suggestions? I don’t need much more than 1x4...

I’v been using iron sights on mine. Thinking about a Leupold scout scope.

I’ve had great performance from my Leupold VX3i 1.5-5 on everything from my 375’s up to my 458 Lott. They run $399 before any sales or discounts.

My Vortex cross fire 2 6-24x50oa, mounted on 10-22 22LR and 223 rem AR, was returned to Vortex 2 times and it needs to be returned a third time. The reticle spins in the tube. I have to pay for shipping 1 way. I am not happy.

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I had to pay shipping also