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Court ordered repairs to our range

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July 22, 2018, 03:22 PM
ulsterman
Court ordered repairs to our range
3 knuckleheads were caught trashing our range and went to court.

Attorneys and Judge met in chambers prior to the trail and called me in. They wanted the 3 guys to get the materials and make the repairs to the range. I told them "No. I will not take a day out of my life to supervise them. It will take another day out of my life when they don't show up and I have to appear in court again. I want $500 restitution."

Nope. We will do it the Courts way.

They showed up an hour late. No tools. No lumber. No trash bags. No gloves.

Now I have to appear in Court again to tell the Judge what the 3 Stooges didn't do. The Three Stooges won't appear.
July 22, 2018, 03:55 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Now what did your attorney have to say? It would seem that your attorney should appear in court on the behalf of the range and another day of your time should not be wasted.
July 22, 2018, 04:38 PM
Sigmund
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Now what did your attorney have to say? It would seem that your attorney should appear in court on the behalf of the range and another day of your time should not be wasted.


I don't think the range had an attorney in court, the country (or district) attorney was the prosecutor. The OP has to REappear on behalf of the range (a/k/a the "victim"), I doubt he needs to bring an attorney.
July 22, 2018, 05:01 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
I don't think the range had an attorney in court, the country (or district) attorney was the prosecutor. The OP has to REappear on behalf of the range (a/k/a the "victim"), I doubt he needs to bring an attorney.


I was confused because the plural form, {attorneys} was used. I would hope that the range would reimburse for the time or compensate him in some sort of fashion.
July 22, 2018, 05:17 PM
ulsterman
Sorry. Attorneys were the Prosecutor and the Defense.

Judge and I have never gotten along.
July 23, 2018, 01:02 PM
wolfe 21
Private range, public use or your own property? In any case, sorry it worked out so poorly for you.


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July 23, 2018, 01:08 PM
BuckRogers2000
We've lost a free shooting range in my area. People were abusing it constantly.

This is why we can't have nice things.
July 23, 2018, 02:06 PM
ulsterman
Our own property.

Have to report to the Court this afternoon.
July 23, 2018, 02:31 PM
muzzleloader
Would be better to solve out of court (with a balpeen hammer). Sorry for your troubles.


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July 23, 2018, 02:33 PM
jljones
Criminal or civil?




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July 23, 2018, 03:03 PM
ulsterman
Criminal.
July 23, 2018, 03:31 PM
jljones
FTA on all parties for a contempt




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July 23, 2018, 06:26 PM
ulsterman
Yep.

I appeared before the Judge. He acted surprised. They hung the FTA's on them.

Plus the restitution cost goes up $100 every time I have to take a day to appear.

Hell, I'm retired. My hourly rate is high.
July 27, 2018, 06:59 PM
Scooter123
quote:
Originally posted by ulsterman:
Yep.

I appeared before the Judge. He acted surprised. They hung the FTA's on them.

Plus the restitution cost goes up $100 every time I have to take a day to appear.

Hell, I'm retired. My hourly rate is high.


IMO you forgot to bill for driving to court. Check out the billing for something as simply as replacing pilot temp sensor in an oven or furnace, the repair company will bill you 75 bucks just for knocking on your door. I would advise rounding it up to 100 bucks for every appearance and 100 bucks per hour for your time. BTW, that include the time spent notifying the court for a FTA.

PS: I just loathe Vandals an IMO the universal punishment should be having their feet nailed to a 12 inch 2 x 4, one on each foot.


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July 27, 2018, 07:11 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
I appeared before the Judge. He acted surprised. They hung the FTA's on them.


Interesting to see that he was surprised. Most judges I know have seen and expect the worst in human behavior. Keep us updated on the case.
July 27, 2018, 07:41 PM
ulsterman
One got picked up for another charge. Same judge let him out on an OR bond.
July 27, 2018, 08:03 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Yeah he has a family to support. LOL Locally, the jail docket for the county is online and you can check for priors quite easily. It comes in handy.
July 28, 2018, 07:35 AM
ulsterman
I was a Deputy in that county so I have a good idea what the entire family has been convicted of.

Fairly sure their mothers were meth heads when they were preggers and the boys don't have two brain cells to rub together.