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New TeleMarketer Aggravation

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July 31, 2019, 05:26 PM
V-Tail
New TeleMarketer Aggravation
The past two weeks I have been called several times daily, spoofed Caller ID is always (407) 3xx-xxxx, where the xx-xxxx portion is different each time, so I can not block a specific number.

The area code and office code are Sanford Florida, where some of my customers are, so I really can't block a whole range of numbers.

I swear, I would be tempted to vote for Socialist Bernie if he would guarantee to absolutely put a stop to this shit. Well, maybe not, but there has to be a way to stop this.

I have been out of the telephone engineering business for more that 20 years, but there has to be a way to flag Caller ID that is not actually the same as the number that the call originated from. I know that it could have been done on the systems where I worked on the original version of ANI (Automatic Number Identification -- predecessor to Caller ID). Of course those systems (Step-By-Step, Panel, # 1 CrossBar) had the ANI information hard-wired, so not susceptible to hacking or spoofing.



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July 31, 2019, 05:36 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
I have been out of the telephone engineering business for more that 20 years, but there has to be a way to flag Caller ID that is not actually the same as the number that the call originated from. I know that it could have been done on the systems where I worked on the original version of ANI (Automatic Number Identification -- predecessor to Caller ID). Of course those systems (Step-By-Step, Panel, # 1 CrossBar) had the ANI information hard-wired, so not susceptible to hacking or spoofing.


It is obvious to me that the tech exists to block this crap. I think the debate is HOW MUCH are we going to charge the customer for this ADDED service. The quote that the telephone is the biggest invasion of privacy was uttered quite some time ago, but still holds true.
July 31, 2019, 09:54 PM
bjor13
I take those calls now and it say goal to waste their time. I let them know and laugh at them that I lead them on for 15 minutes and will keep doing it. The calls stopped.
July 31, 2019, 10:23 PM
tatortodd
God damn solar power telemarketers have been hounding me this week. Normally, I don’t answer calls from unknown #’s (especially those with matching area code and prefix as they’re typically spoofers), but I have a Contractor coming out and whichever tech is coming is supposed to call from his/her cell phone (ie won’t caller id as contractor’s phone #).



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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer.
July 31, 2019, 10:31 PM
Fed161
My solar panel telemarketer calls are way down since I started telling them that I already have solar panels. (I actually don't.)
July 31, 2019, 10:44 PM
tatortodd
quote:
Originally posted by Fed161:
My solar panel telemarketer calls are way down since I started telling them that I already have solar panels. (I actually don't.)
I got rid of one company last year by telling them the actual electric bill for Houston in July (my home is very efficient). I tried this week and it didn’t phase him. He started back on his spiel and I hung up. He called back and my profanity laden response did phase him.



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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer.
August 01, 2019, 06:44 AM
farman
We switched to "Magic Jack" a few years ago to get rid of ATT. A couple of months age they created an app where the caller has to push a number before the call will go through. No more robo calls.


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August 01, 2019, 09:42 AM
sig sailor
I was called 4 times on Sunday afternoon about a problem with my I-cloud account. On the forth call I pressed one to speak to an Apple help person. A man with a very heavy India accent comes on the line and says, Hello this is Steve how may I help you. I laughed and said, Steve is it okay Steve what country are you in? He hung up. Now I always count it as a win if I can get scammers to hang up on me, but Steve didn't want to play. Smile That was the last call I got from those scammers, but plenty of others to take their place.
Rod


"Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author

I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no.
August 01, 2019, 10:12 AM
Leemur
When I’m bored I pick up and keep yelling “WHAT?!”
August 01, 2019, 10:20 AM
Pipe Smoker
I read that AT&T has recently began offering a service ($2/month, I think) that sends junk calls to your voicemail.



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August 01, 2019, 10:30 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:

I read that AT&T has recently began offering a service ($2/month, I think) that sends junk calls to your voicemail.
So, you pay them to get calls, and then you pay them to not get calls. That's a great example of "they get you coming and going."

Good old A&T, if there's a way to screw you, they'll find it, and I say that as an ex-employee. BOHICA!



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August 01, 2019, 11:49 AM
sig sailor
If I don't answer a junk call and they wish to leave a message, it goes to voice mail. Why pay $2 extra for a service I already have? If they don't wish to leave a message... oh well.
Rod


"Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author

I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no.
August 01, 2019, 03:57 PM
fiasconva
"You sound sexy. What are you wearing? I'm sitting here naked." usually gets them off the phone pretty quickly. *s*



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August 01, 2019, 04:53 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by fiasconva:

"You sound sexy. What are you wearing? I'm sitting here naked." usually gets them off the phone pretty quickly. *s*
Especially if the telemarketer is male. Smile



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August 01, 2019, 05:09 PM
GWbiker
quote:
Originally posted by Fed161:
My solar panel telemarketer calls are way down since I started telling them that I already have solar panels. (I actually don't.)


I got a call from a Solar Panel telemarketer offering me a great deal on a system. I jumped on the offer after he listed the details and price. Got a date to install the panels.

Then I gave him my address.......and apartment number.

Boy, was he pissed.


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August 01, 2019, 05:33 PM
RHINOWSO
Just don't answer unknown numbers...

If they don't leave a msg, or leave a telemarketer msg - BLOCKED.

If it's important, they'll leave a msg.
August 01, 2019, 07:44 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
If it's important, they'll leave a msg.


I use this principle on my private cellphone, but it results in problems if like Vtail you are running a business. Most older people will leave a message, younger folks move on to the next business. A 30 something told me that he never leaves a voicemail. Too much trouble. He expects you to have caller ID and call him back. Millenials have money to spend as well so you have to accomodate them to some degree.
August 01, 2019, 08:04 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
If it's important, they'll leave a msg.


I use this principle on my private cellphone, but it results in problems if like Vtail you are running a business. Most older people will leave a message, younger folks move on to the next business. A 30 something told me that he never leaves a voicemail. Too much trouble. He expects you to have caller ID and call him back. Millenials have money to spend as well so you have to accomodate them to some degree.
Sure, if you are selling retail I can understand that. I'm not - all calls are clients on contract, clients wanting to get on contract, or businesses. All would leave a message, but if not answering made them go elsewhere, we likely wouldn't be a good business fit for them anyway. We are always in meetings, flying, traveling, or in places you can't bring a phone - so leaving messages is ops normal.