September 21, 2023, 05:43 PM
OttoSig“Mint”
As in condition, if it’s not an antique, or close to it, stop using the term.
“Unmarred, as if fresh from a mint”
If you bought it last month it’s not “mint” that just means it’s literally fresh from the “mint”
A pack of baseball cards from this week aren’t “mint”, they’re simply new from the “mint”.
Minor gripe but it makes me picture the person writing it has on a wife beater and hat without a bend in the brim.
Nine years to retirement! Just waiting! September 21, 2023, 06:59 PM
P250UA5And they likely want a 'mint' for it
The Enemy's gate is down. September 21, 2023, 08:10 PM
YooperSigsThe gun shop owner I used to work for used the descriptive term "as new".
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September 21, 2023, 09:33 PM
ensigmaticmint adj. Like new; in brand-new condition; unworn, as a coin recently made at a mint.
So, if I have something for sale, the cosmetic condition and functionality of which is indistinguishable from the same thing that's brand-new, it may legitimately be described as "in mint condition."
quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
The gun shop owner I used to work for used the descriptive term "as new".
"As new," "like new," "LNIB," and "mint" all imply the same things to me.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher September 21, 2023, 10:52 PM
BigSwedeStill in the wrapper
September 22, 2023, 05:52 AM
Bassamaticquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
mint adj. Like new; in brand-new condition; unworn, as a coin recently made at a mint.
As new," "like new," "LNIB," and "mint" all imply the same things to me.
If I see those terms describing something for sale, to me, it suggests that it is one step down from "new in box" which would mean it is unmolested, just as it came from the factory.
.....never marry a woman who is mean to your waitress. September 22, 2023, 06:57 AM
selogicI have an AR15 that I purchased and brought home and put it in the safe , If I describe it as unfired , new in the box there are people that would take exception to that . " It was test fired at the factory " or " It's not new once you take it home " , etc. What the hell an I supposed to call it or do I just tell the jackasses to stuff it ?
September 22, 2023, 07:50 AM
RichardCLots of bad mintin' going on.
What a racket.
September 22, 2023, 09:08 AM
OttoSigquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
mint adj. Like new; in brand-new condition; unworn, as a coin recently made at a mint.
So, if I have something for sale, the cosmetic condition and functionality of which is indistinguishable from the same thing that's brand-new, it may legitimately be described as "in mint condition."
quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
The gun shop owner I used to work for used the descriptive term "as new".
"As new," "like new," "LNIB," and "mint" all imply the same things to me.
With 100% understanding of the definition, my problem is more of a personal opinion, yet also arguable, if something is NEW, then OF COURSE it's "mint".
If it's "mint" because it just came from the factory then its "new". "Mint" to me always referred to something older that was still in that same condition. If it's new its new.
Nine years to retirement! Just waiting! September 22, 2023, 09:12 AM
OttoSigquote:
Originally posted by Bassamatic:
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
mint adj. Like new; in brand-new condition; unworn, as a coin recently made at a mint.
As new," "like new," "LNIB," and "mint" all imply the same things to me.
If I see those terms describing something for sale, to me, it suggests that it is one step down from "new in box" which would mean it is unmolested, just as it came from the factory.
See, to me every one of those EXCEPT mint means that. "Mint" means it's the EXACT same condition as when it left the assembly line. Not a scratch, not a nick, not a ding. Not a bent corner or creased binding. NOTHING, "MINT" means it is that SAME as NEW. So if it mean's it's the SAME as new, then it can't also mean new, as many people seem to use the word.
New = new as in freshly made
Mint = older but still exactly as new
Like new = freshly made or old but with SOME minor usage sign
Again, 100% subjective but I'm sticking to my guns.
Nine years to retirement! Just waiting! September 22, 2023, 09:26 AM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by Bassamatic:
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
As new," "like new," "LNIB," and "mint" all imply the same things to me.
If I see those terms describing something for sale, to me, it suggests that it is one step down from "new in box" which would mean it is unmolested, just as it came from the factory.
I imagine most people would. But, if it meets the described condition: Does it really matter whether it's NIB or LNIB? I mean: Unless you have a thing against possessing something somebody else has touched--much less *gasp* used.
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
With 100% understanding of the definition, my problem is more of a personal opinion, yet also arguable, if something is NEW, then OF COURSE it's "mint".
Not necessarily. I recently bought a NIB URC MX-500 remote. Sure enough: It was NIB. Problem is: The first generation of these things had a case material that degraded with age. What I ended-up with was a remote with a surface like fly paper. It certainly wasn't "mint."
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
"Mint" to me always referred to something older that was still in that same condition. If it's new its new.
You can interpret the word however you like, but, that doesn't make it the definition of what the word means--much less oblige others to abide by your feeling of what the word means.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher September 22, 2023, 09:33 AM
OttoSigquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
quote:
Originally posted by Bassamatic:
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
As new," "like new," "LNIB," and "mint" all imply the same things to me.
If I see those terms describing something for sale, to me, it suggests that it is one step down from "new in box" which would mean it is unmolested, just as it came from the factory.
I imagine most people would. But, if it meets the described condition: Does it really matter whether it's NIB or LNIB? I mean: Unless you have a thing against possessing something somebody else has touched--much less *gasp* used.
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
With 100% understanding of the definition, my problem is more of a personal opinion, yet also arguable, if something is NEW, then OF COURSE it's "mint".
Not necessarily. I recently bought a NIB URC MX-500 remote. Sure enough: It was NIB. Problem is: The first generation of these things had a case material that degraded with age. What I ended-up with was a remote with a surface like fly paper. It certainly wasn't "mint."
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
"Mint" to me always referred to something older that was still in that same condition. If it's new its new.
You can interpret the word however you like, but, that doesn't make it the definition of what the word means--much less oblige others to abide by your feeling of what the word means.
Folks can do as they please, as will I. I'm under no assumption that folks will use the word as I wish. And I'll continue to have my opinion of it.
Nine years to retirement! Just waiting! September 22, 2023, 10:01 AM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
Lots of bad mintin' going on.
What a racket.
That is terrible, You are a very bad man.
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jhe888I don't mind applying "mint" to a relatively new item. It tells you that it hasn't been used or marred.
For example, a knife. You may have bought it last week. But if you sharpened it, or used it to pry the car door open since then, it is no longer mint, even though it is quite new.
To me, "mint" is a synonym for "as-new" or "unused" and carries no connotation of old, but still unused.
I understand this is not the OP's opinion, but he, unfortunately, is wrong.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. September 22, 2023, 01:16 PM
OKCGene"Vintage"
"Rare"
And others.
Grumble Grumble
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September 26, 2023, 09:57 PM
David LeeGawd, I have fallen for the word minty, more than once. It would cause me to ogle every damn detail in a sellers photos. Minty also seemed to imply, he wants X for his product and nothing less will bring it home. I'd ogle until my ogler was kaput and either buy on his terms or give up the purchase. It was likely just to minty for my money.