You’re a little bitch.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
I've got a single question for all of the Vet's.

What's your opinion of your recruiter?

Have no idea who he was, signed the paper work and got a time to report to FT Holabird Baltimore MD.
August 1970
USN ABH2 another life

I worked at Hardees the summer before joining the Army, I know how to make fries, make the grass grow and field dress a sucking chest wound

Stick the piping hot fries up your ass

Does tone deaf ring a bell? I am waiting for a rant about motorcycles being a menace and how they should be run over.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Does tone deaf ring a bell? I am waiting for a rant about motorcycles being a menace and how they should be run over.

I was a member of a forum where someone said something to that effect, it didn't end very well for him. Viral before viral was a thing.

This really didn't go like the OP had planned did it?

Turns out there are a lot of Veterans on SigForum who don't take too kindly to "put the fry's in the bag" or the crayons comments.

Whoops

Just days short of 22 years and still can't read the room.

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Similar, not the same. Naturalization requires more commitment.

You have to be fucking kidding me. You really said that on this forum? You are going on ignore and I never want to hear a got damn word you have to say on anything ever again. I have family, in the ground, that served during World Wars. You aren’t even in the same stratosphere.

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Originally posted by sooma:
Naturalization requires more commitment.

An AI Copilot answer to my question “is a commitment more than a promise?”
“Yes. … A promise is an assurance; a commitment is dedication in action.”

Making a promise to serve in the armed forces when required by the law [emphasis added] is laudable (somewhat, anyway), but it’s not the same as actually becoming a member of the armed forces. That’s especially true today when there is no conscription; all members are volunteers, not coerced draftees.
Claiming that a promise is the same as action simply demonstrates a lamentable degree of ignorance that becomes stupidity because expressing a strong opinion on the basis of willful ignorance is just that: stupid.

As it evidently must be pointed out, a promise made during a naturalization ceremony*, is no more of a commitment than the obligation natural born citizens naturally have as well, despite our not having stood up with hand raised to acknowledge it.

* And now that it’s been brought up here, I’m curious why those promises must be expressly stated during the ceremony. Aren’t those obligations, i.e., obeying the law, obvious requirements of good citizenship without being stated? What made it necessary to include them in the naturalization oath?

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Originally posted by BigSwede:
I worked at Hardees the summer before joining the Army, I know how to make fries, make the grass grow and field dress a sucking chest wound

Stick the piping hot fries up your ass

I like this approach…

Me, I worked at McDonalds my senior year before heading off to boot.

I, too, know how to make fries, operate a nuclear reactor at 400 ft below a polar ice cap while being chased by a Soviet Alpha. Strange though, no trash men around…go figure.

Anyone else here “make fries”?

Oops, forgot, edited to add: stick those fries up your ass Sooma.

Sooma, My wife has a message for you:

엉터리, 감자튀김을 네 엉덩이에 처넣어!

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Originally posted by Johnny 3eagles:
Sooma, My wife has a message for you:

엉터리, 감자튀김을 네 엉덩이에 처넣어!

I ran that through Google Translate. Oddly, I wasn't surprised by the result. Who knew I could read Korean?

"You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!"

-R.K.

Oh, and stick the fries up your ass

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Originally posted by wishfull thinker:
you bet that Tommy sees!

He does, and far more clearly than the fools among us.

It’s interesting how discussions here cause me to learn more about things I had never before considered. An Internet question resulted in this answer about men who after they were naturalized decided that they didn’t want to become part of the armed forces in discharge of their duty to their newly-adopted country:

“Between 60,000 and 100,000 men fled to Canada or Sweden to avoid the draft. This included some naturalized citizens who decided the Vietnam war wasn't worth their newly acquired status.”

I suspect that was also the answer to my question about why the naturalization oath had to include the part about being subject to conscription: “Just so you understand, you will be required to obey all of our laws even if you don’t like some.”

Also to be clear, I have great respect for all of our naturalized citizens. To do so requires courage in addition to the somewhat difficult process itself, and based on what they must learn about the country they are more knowledgeable about its history and institutions than the vast majority of those who were born here. I even respect sooma for that reason, but one of the things he should have learned by now in addition to whatever else he knows is that having gone through the process doesn’t give him the right to disparage people who have also made their contributions to the Nation.

OP- Please feel free to suck a wild screaming fart out of my 4th point of contact.
And I don't care what you do with your fries- I hope a whiney terd like you defecates on 'em.

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He rarely even stands up at events that ask military to stand up

Vietnam era veteran? Yeah, they went thru some crap that others did not. Many don't even acknowledge they are Vets due to that: no Veterans plates, no veteran clothing, nothing!! God bless the VN vets!!!

Anybody heard from sooma lately?

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Originally posted by odin:

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He rarely even stands up at events that ask military to stand up

Vietnam era veteran? Yeah, they went thru some crap that others did not. Many don't even acknowledge they are Vets due to that: no Veterans plates, no veteran clothing, nothing!! God bless the VN vets!!!

I apologize for a bit of a thread drift but ...

I have a neighbor who is a veteran of the SE Asia unpleasantness and got the pure-t shit shot out of him. He wears a hat, probably has a dozen of them, generic veteran hats, army veteran hats, a Purple Heart hat, a U.S. Army infantry hat. We've been neighbors a long time and he knows that I was there but have only brief chats. And then day, apparently from nowhere, he asked me why I didn't wear a hat, ever; one with an emblem or otherwise symbolizing service.

My answer was totally truthful: I don't like hats generally, I didn't want too get in an unwanted conversation and other blather of that nature.

He took me to school on the subject, the hat, if there was one, wouldn't be for me; it's for the other guy; somebody that just might like to nod and smile back, or start a chat waiting in line for over-priced coffee. I got it, mostly. But the part that really ripped me was that the hat's out there for that one guy you see each week, somewhere, that thinks he's alone. Because now he knows that there is one guy in the mob that just might have his six.

I was pretty moved by the talk but I immediately reverted to type and did nothing, like I said I don't like hats.
In a couple of weeks my neighbor, Chuck, brought me a hat. Black, with a black USMC emblem on it. Clearly visible but subtle. I thanked him, threw it in the car, started wearing it just routinely. I have a couple of gun-hobby hats that I wore for weather or for the heck of it and replaced those occasions with the new hat.

The nods, the 'how ya doin's' are uncountable. There have been some very pleasant chats, some coffee with strangers when we needed to get out of the parking lot of wherever. All in all I'm still wearing the hat. Another neighbor gave me a hat as well, this one with a gold emblem; so much for being subtle.

The quintessential convo came in the parking lot out at the fringes of Walmart in the summer couple year's back. I actually didn't have the hat on at the moment the gent passed but he stopped and complemented me on my taste in cars. I said thanks but I asked him what he liked about it. He said "I've got one just like it, it's right there", a '21 F-150 King Ranch in Anti-Gravity Blue. So we congratulated ourselves on our sense of style and taste, and a minute or so later I put my hat back on and he said "Semper Fi, me too".
For those just arriving that's a shorthand of the Marine's Motto.

So we started, "when were you in? '68 (yeah, I know, I don't look that old)
"me too", quoth the stranger; "Who were you with?" Very routine. 3/26" I replied (the three twenty-six is third Infantry Battalion 26th Marine Infantry Regiment) for those still reading. So now we have a shared experience. more routine, but damn, we might be related.

We went to the when of it all 68-69 for both of us. The world's pretty small. He asked me if I was on a specific operation, an amphibious landing on the Batangan Peninsula, the op that is routinely left out of every reporter that ever lived talking about not needing the USMC because we don't attack Islands. (oops, a bias is showing pretend you didn't read that) The follow up Q:

"what company"
"Head Quarters, but I wasn't head shed, I was in an armored platoon, attached"

So the stranger asked if this was the ONTOS platoon, which it was, and proceeded to tell me, as if it was last week, how that platoon was right with his company for over two weeks. He described the terrain we covered, we laughed about an air strike we had by Air Force phantoms. We both laughed at all the grunts clustered up like a bunch of slow learners to see the show, but it was awesome. He asked me if I heard the grunts taking about who the married pilots were; they could tell because they came in higher and none of 'em did a victory roll like the bachelors. Just showing off for a deeply appreciative audience.

This operation didn't move the needle on war or peace but the chat had a much deeper feeling than I can put on paper. My new acquaintance described, in detail, some stuff I hadn't even thought about in half a century. It reminded me that we veterans aren't as alone as some, maybe many, maybe all, think we are. We aren't special in the eyes of the larger community but just knowing what we did, what ever it was, was important at that moment. So if you see me over by the feed section of Walmart I'll be wearing my hat and a smug look. Say 'hey' to me, it'll make my day.

Thanks for reading.

Oooh, and you know who, can shove you know what up his ass.