You Actually Call This A Pizza? Really?

December 23, 2017, 11:23 PM

mr kablammo

I went to a new pizza eatery in my town. A twelve inch pizza with sausage, mushrooms, green peppers, and onion cost $18.00!? DeGiorno and Screaming Sicilian will continue as the brands of choice at Casa Kablammo.

Excepting that I bought '00 flour' and will roll my own in cold weather.

December 24, 2017, 09:08 AM

V-Tail

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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
DeGiorno and Screaming Sicilian will continue as the brands of choice at Casa Kablammo.

Yeah, DiGiorno isn't bad at all. I have never tried Screaming Sicilian, but I'll look for it at the store, give it a try on your recommendation.

I'm not sure, but I don't think that Publix has a footprint in your area. The Publix Premium house brand product line is excellent quality. The ice cream is probably the best store-bought that I have found, and we do like their frozen pizzas.

The ice cream is best right out of the freezer, but we do like to run the pizza through the oven before eating. Seems to have more flavor that way.

December 24, 2017, 10:53 AM

joatmonv

I'm lucky to live in an area that has a strong Italian influence and some of the best pizza.
From deep dish to thin, it's pretty much covered.
Last night I went to a local dive bar to see a live acoustic show and happened upon a white pizza that I never knew this place had. It was cheap and delicious.

December 24, 2017, 03:41 PM

zoom6zoom

quote:
Excepting that I bought '00 flour' and will roll my own in cold weather.

I used 00 for a while but lately have been using AP again and to be honest I can't tell much difference. I'll get some 00again if I run across a screaming deal, but otherwise it's not worth the price difference to me.

December 24, 2017, 09:09 PM

Sunset_Va

If I don't get heartburn, its a good pizza..

Regardless of where its made.

December 25, 2017, 07:47 AM

V-Tail

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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
I went to a new pizza eatery in my town. A twelve inch pizza with sausage, mushrooms, green peppers, and onion cost $18.00!?

Now, you gotta understand just how prices like this can be justified.

First, you need to have a cutesy menu.

Then, you need to describe your pizza crust as "artisan." OK, they got me there. WTF is "artisan" pizza?

As it is said, Google is yore fren'. I asked Google, and here is what I found: "Technically speaking, an artisan is a skilled craftsman — someone who's accumulated knowledge and skills through some of kind of apprenticeship. An artisanal pizza, therefore, is a pizza crafted by someone who possesses a deep knowledge of the process."

It's nice to know that the high school dropout who stuck my pizza in the oven is a skilled craftsman with knowledge and skills. Uh, make that a deep knowledge. Makes it worth every penny of that eighteen bucks.

And they still don't have anchovies!

December 25, 2017, 08:13 AM

PHPaul

V-Tail, I'm with you on the "artisan" thing.

Freakin' everything is "artisanal" around here, to the point that it's a sign for me to avoid any product that puts that ridiculous word in their description.

December 25, 2017, 09:00 AM

fatmanspencer

It's not a real joint if I cant get NY style with anchivoes. If it cant fit that order, they suck. plain and simple

December 25, 2017, 09:06 AM

V-Tail

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Originally posted by fatmanspencer:
It's not a real joint if I cant get NY style with anchivoes. If it cant fit that order, they suck. plain and simple

Absolutely correct. For those of you who were not fortunate enough to grow up in the NY metropolitan area, a "real" pizza is served on a battered metal platter, with a small puddle of grease that can be sopped up with the crust of your slice after you have eaten most of it.

December 25, 2017, 09:43 AM

tatortodd

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by fatmanspencer:
It's not a real joint if I cant get NY style with anchivoes. If it cant fit that order, they suck. plain and simple
Absolutely correct. For those of you who were not fortunate enough to grow up in the NY metropolitan area, a "real" pizza is served on a battered metal platter, with a small puddle of grease that can be sopped up with the crust of your slice after you have eaten most of it.

Typical NY nonsense when it comes to "Italian" food. Modern pizza was invented in Naples, Italy, and NY style pizza is a bastardization of "real" pizza. There are two "real" pizzas:

Marinara - tomato, oregano, garlic, and extra virgin olive oil

Margherita - tomato sauce, mozzarella cheese and fresh basil.

If you want "real" pizza you need to go to a pizzeria that has been certified by Associazione Verace Pizza Napoletana. The pizzerias that I've been to remind me of enjoying pizza overlooking the Bay of Naples.

December 25, 2017, 10:03 AM

V-Tail

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
Typical NY nonsense when it comes to "Italian" food.

It is quite possible that I could be wrong. After all I was wrong before. Once.

However, I am pretty sure that there is no city in Italy that has a population greater than the population of citizens of Italian descent in the NY metropolitan area.

The numbers, and the traditions handed down within the family, make NY Italians just as "real" as any in Italy.

December 25, 2017, 10:13 AM

tatortodd

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Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
Typical NY nonsense when it comes to "Italian" food.
It is quite possible that I could be wrong. After all I was wrong before. Once.

However, I am pretty sure that there is no city in Italy that has a population greater than the population of citizens of Italian descent in the NY metropolitan area.

The numbers, and the traditions handed down within the family, make NY Italians just as "real" as any in Italy.

Make that twice. The entire state of New York has less Italians than the population of Rome - 2.7 million vs 2.8 million. NYC has 684k Italians which means Rome, Milan, Naples (birth place of pizza), and Turin are larger (Palermo is about a tie). If you branch into suburbs and cross state lines NYC metropolitan area is slightly under 1.9 million Italians making it smaller than Rome proper (Rome has sprawling suburbs too bringing the total to 4.3 million).

Back to the pizza, I've spent quite a bit of time in NYC in the 90s and the pizza is nothing like the pizza I had in Italy. NYC pizza is it's own genre of pizza (Chicago style is another genre with a large fan base) and it's very good but it's not the definition of "real" pizza (i.e. Pizza Napoletana).

December 25, 2017, 04:46 PM

RNshooter

I was visiting my parents in central Florida. We went to go pick up a pizza. I asked them to make it with "fresh garlic" on it.
They looked at me like I had asked for "ground up Unicorns". No dice.

That's not a pizza place, in my book.

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December 25, 2017, 04:50 PM

fatmanspencer

Tator, I'm not trying to hate, but your saying Chicago style like its a form a pizza. There is proper style, the fast food style, sicilian style, and the crap the italians have that are mozzarella

December 25, 2017, 04:52 PM

jimmy123x

quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by mr kablammo:
DeGiorno and Screaming Sicilian will continue as the brands of choice at Casa Kablammo.
Yeah, DiGiorno isn't bad at all. I have never tried Screaming Sicilian, but I'll look for it at the store, give it a try on your recommendation.

I'm not sure, but I don't think that Publix has a footprint in your area. The Publix Premium house brand product line is excellent quality. The ice cream is probably the best store-bought that I have found, and we do like their frozen pizzas.

The ice cream is best right out of the freezer, but we do like to run the pizza through the oven before eating. Seems to have more flavor that way.

Screaming Sicilian is better than both of them, but still isn't a fresh pizza.

If you think those are good, buy the Publix yogurt. The 2% blended greek yogurt is better than ALL of the other brands by a long shot. I've found that the Publix products are extremely good across the board.

December 25, 2017, 04:54 PM

V-Tail

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
Screaming Sicilian is better than both of them, but still isn't a fresh pizza.

If you think those are good, buy the Publix yogurt. The 2% blended greek yogurt is better than ALL of the other brands by a long shot. I've found that the Publix products are extremely good across the board.

Yogurt on pizza? That's disgusting.