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I visited WV last September. I-77 from the tunnel at the VA state line to where I turned off at US-19 (exit 48) is a series of steep uphill climbs. I'm pretty sure a number of trucks going ~35 mph (speed limit 70) were using flashers, and it was clear and sunny.

Where not to use flashers: a couple of years or so ago I was behind a large pickup towing a flatbed trailer. It was dusk at the time but otherwise clear, and he not only used his flashers the whole time (until he got too far ahead and I lost sight of him), but in the left lane and passing other traffic. They could have been malfunctioning but this would still be cause to get lit up.





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Posts: 31566 | Location: Johnson City, TN | Registered: April 28, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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True story: I came out of the grocery store, walked to my car in the parking lot. Car parked in the adjacent slot with flashers going, an elderly couple, completely puzzled. He was in the driver seat, staring at the dashboard. She was standing outside the car, looking at the flashing tail lights.

I approached, she said to me in a puzzled tone, "Everything is flashing." I walked over to the driver's door, looked in, told the man "press the red triangle." He did, and of course the lights stopped flashing.

Neither one of them had any idea what the flashers were.



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Posts: 33390 | Location: Central Florida, Orlando area | Registered: January 03, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by pedropcola:

You are irritated because initially you are on an interstate (let’s say 55-70 posted speed limit) and come up on a driver going 35mph with his flashers on. Your words, the interstate is down to one plowed lane and the other lane has four (4”) inches of snow. It’s actively snowing, it’s nighttime, it is not what anyone considers “normal” visibility. It’s restricted visibility. If you hadn’t wanted to exit you would have gone around him going some speed above his stated 35 and probably gone even faster once you passed and were back on a plowed lane and actually could see the road, markings, etc.

You are pissed that he had flashers on, yet you were exhibiting the exact behavior that caused him to put his hazards on in the first place. Guys like you driving fast for conditions and he doesn’t want to be rear ended when you speed up on him in the snow, down to one lane, lowered visibility, and the other lane has four inches of snow.

So all that, and we are supposed to agree with you that he’s the problem? Don’t think so.



Actually my words were "It had been snowing and it was effectively down to the right lane that was recently plowed. Florida car was driving 35 mph which was OK given the conditions."

IMO he could have safely gone a little faster on the plowed lane but I wasn't concerned about that and said so, most everyone passing him wasn't going that much faster. If he was not comfortable going faster than 35mph then he absolutely shouldn't. I never said he should. I wasn't comfortable shifting over to the passing lane with 4" of snow just to go around, so I didn't.

Restricted visibility? Is driving at night in light rain or light snow restricted? Sure compared to ideal visibility. Should people drive with their flashers on at night in light rain or light snow? I say no, the law says no. You say sure. We disagree. My rant and I never said anyone is supposed to agree with me.


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Posts: 8348 | Location: Northern WV | Registered: January 17, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
True story: I came out of the grocery store, walked to my car in the parking lot. Car parked in the adjacent slot with flashers going, an elderly couple, completely puzzled. He was in the driver seat, staring at the dashboard. She was standing outside the car, looking at the flashing tail lights.

I approached, she said to me in a puzzled tone, "Everything is flashing." I walked over to the driver's door, looked in, told the man "press the red triangle." He did, and of course the lights stopped flashing.

Neither one of them had any idea what the flashers were.


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Posts: 8348 | Location: Northern WV | Registered: January 17, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Well thank goodness West Virginia protects us from the dangers of hazard lights.

You keep poking the visibility side of my discussion and keep pretending I haven’t mentioned slow traffic in multiple posts. It’s like you want to win an argument by ignoring what I’ve actually said.

Your scenario is exactly what I’ve described at least 3 times above. Overtaking traffic that is going significantly slower than posted speeds.

Not to mention in your last post you say you weren’t comfortable going around. In your first you very clearly imply that you would have except you were exiting in 2 miles. Can’t be both.
 
Posts: 8479 | Location: Florida | Registered: June 18, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Most states actually.

There was no "extreme low visibility".

Posted maximum speed limit isn't relevant because no one was driving 70 mph due to winter conditions. Everyone was going 35-45.


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Not to mention in your last post you say you weren’t comfortable going around. In your first you very clearly imply that you would have except you were exiting in 2 miles. Can’t be both.


Geesh.... in my first post I clearly stated "Florida car was driving 35 mph which was OK given the conditions and I was going to exit within 2 miles so I followed rather than try to pass in left lane which had 4" of snow".

HAD I not been exiting in a couple miles, and HAD Florida continued as well, and HAD we came to where the left lane was clear enough to safely pass, I would have done so and continued at 40 mph, to get away from his fucking annoying bright totally unnecessary flashers.

The end.


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Posts: 8348 | Location: Northern WV | Registered: January 17, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Snowy conditions

I would probably guess that the driver is not use to driving in snow and has already expirenced morons passing and tailgating him scaring him. Probably to be brand new to the area and not sure of where he needs to turn. In which case locals will be whizzed off for him drive slow no matter what the weather is. (been there, done that).
Have you ever driven in a strange area and not quite sure where you will find the location you are looking for? If so, did you slow down to look for it?

Guy driving slow with flashers on is less likely to hit you then the above mentioned moron drivers that drive to fast & tailgate people.

Many years ago when I took drivers training we were taught that in clear dry conditions you leave at least 1 car length for every 10 mph you are traveling. Lots of old folks out there that learned that.

We hate tailgaters!


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Posts: 4636 | Location: Metamora MI | Registered: October 31, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It's been foggy here in Houston this week. I'd take the annoyance of driving with hazards to the opposite. Multiple cars, no lights at all, in predawn or dusk conditions with limited visibility.
Then the intermediate, just the DRLs in the front, no lights in the rear.




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