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KIEV period ... I don't care what their preferred pronoun is. Eek
 
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Well crap, I’m just going to call it “ That place surrounded by the Serpent’s Wall.

Perhaps it would it be ok if I used “The city formally known as Kiev.” That sorta has a “party like it’s 1999” vibe.



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People who like to use the "native" pronounciation for locations, I then correct them that Vallejo, California should be pronounced as "Vayeho, California."
That's the way I'd pronounce it. How else would one pronounce it?
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Locals pronounce it as Val-hay-oh and decry idiots that say Valley-joe.

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What makes more sense?

Shield then Sword

---or---

Shield then Storm


Yeah, the media messed that one up too... Just STFU and ACCURATELY report what's going on. Leave the gitchy little pronounciations and accents alone. The media can shove their cute little umlauts and apostrophes up their pompous asses.


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Depends, Ukrainian or Russian? Russian Kiev = key ev as you are used to. Ukrainian Kyiv = keve. I had the same dislike and looked it up.


The geography I grew up with has changed and so have city names. Istanbul was Constantinople and all.... Wink


Lots of post-colonial geographic name changes.
Salisbury, Rhodesia = Harare, Zimbabwe.


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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
People who like to use the "native" pronounciation for locations, I then correct them that Vallejo, California should be pronounced as "Vayeho, California."
That's the way I'd pronounce it. How else would one pronounce it?
?


Locals pronounce it as Val-hay-oh and decry idiots that say Valley-joe.

Most people around here say it Vallay-ho
 
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“Good morning carmrades “

I have been washing Misha for a few years with his car videos mostly driving the Ring in various high performance vehicles. Today he changed gears as someone with Russian and Ukraine roots he just had to say how disappointed he was with Putin. I think that a lot of average Russian citizens, particularly those with ties to Ukraine, feel the same way..

https://youtu.be/R9lVLxMkq2s

Update from the above post a few days ago..

https://youtu.be/Z0uFcUseteU

Could a Russian uprising from within be possible if the citizens get squeezed enough?


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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
People who like to use the "native" pronounciation for locations, I then correct them that Vallejo, California should be pronounced as "Vayeho, California."
That's the way I'd pronounce it. How else would one pronounce it?
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Most people around here say it Vallay-ho


Yes, that's the "right" way.

I only insist on Vayeho when people want to promote the native pronunciation. I also ask whether they also say "Meheeko" instead of Mexico.

If Putin hadn't invaded Ukraine, I could very well live out my life not coming across the fact that Kiev became Kyiv and be none the worse for it.

I moved to Prescott Valley near Prescott. It's not pronounced the way one would think it's pronounced. The scott is pronounced like the second syllable of biscuit. Being that I live here now, it's Prescuit. But I'm not going to worry about someone in Florida who thinks it's pronounced Prescott.



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My Ukrainian co-worker tells me Keev is the Ukrainian pronunciation, while Kiev is the Russian pronunciation.



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Considering how many Ukrainians I've heard over the last week or so being interviewed calling it Key-Ev, I don't know what to think. But I do know it's pretentious when talking heads on TV who have been saying it that way for 50 years all of a sudden start saying it differently.
 
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Could be worse. K-EYE-ev.


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Don't get me started on "Versales, Missouri" (it's spelled Versailles, and in French pronounced "Vair seye"). And the little German car is really a "Folks Vahgen". and then there's Brett Farve (spelled "Favre" which would be "Fahv ruh" in French).

We all have to get used to multiple pronunciations for some words--one that we crude Americans typically use and others that are what the residents or carriers do. As an American, I typically use the usual American version unless I'm speaking with a resident of the place--then I TRY to use their version.

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