First off, I hate this new "service" around here where someone stands at the car wash kiosk to "help" you. I can handle pressing a button to select the car wash I want thanks. And I don't want someone lurking over me and touching my credit card with their dick beaters. Especially with my wifes health issues.

Anyway, out with the wife and she goes to get a car wash, there are 2 people standing there waiting. One comes up and takes her card and hits the button on the kisok, and asks if she wants to leave a tip. For what? She gives him a $2 tip and we pull up. They used to brush your whole car with soap before you went in, this time they literally just squirted some crap out of a hose across the hood and that was it while another guy just stood there. And they used to have free towels and windex for inside your car, and that is gone now.

So I got less service than I used to, the car wash is about 30% more than it used to be, and now you want a tip? WTF....

Wash it yourself. DIY has always been the best way to go anyways. Doesn’t take that much effort. 2 bucket method.

I've only tipped a dollar to the person that dries the car at the end if they are ever there. They probably eliminated that position also.

I'm going back to washing my own again.

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They used to brush your whole car with soap before you went in,

Good riddance to the scratching station.

Touchless automatic wash for me. No people involved at all.

Dick beaters…

Ha, you crack me up…I had a good laugh at that one!

This probably won't be popular here, but I don't believe in tipping anyone who is collecting a wage (regardless of what the wage is) unless their service is above and beyond. Do a great job for me (entirely subjective), and there'll be a little something extra, hence the name "tip"...indicating on top of...above and beyond. Otherwise? You're already being paid for your work. If you don't like what you're being paid and think you deserve more, well...get a new job.

Yes, I know that places aren't required to pay minimum wage by law for a lot of these positions. I don't care. If it is that much of a problem, change the law rather than simply handing out free money willy-nilly to people doing mediocre work.

These service jobs (waitressing, bussing, dishwashing, car washing, unloading trucks, etc...yep, I've done them all...except waitressing as I don't look good in a dress) are not meant to be careers where one can pay off a mortgage or a car or add to their savings. If you want to make more money, do an exceptional job or get a new one that pays better.

Obligatory tipping already rolled into the bill? Well, that's one sure way to get me to not patronize your business. It ain't going to happen.

This 20-25-30% automatic tipping everyone everywhere craze is simply insane and does nothing but make you feel better about yourself and encourage people to not strive for more. I'm a very generous man, but you have to earn it.

Believe me, I know poor. I've been poor. I lived in my '74 shit brown Pinto station wagon for a time in the 1980s, while doing the aforementioned jobs and living off of tuna out of the can and PBJ sandwiches. The best job I had () was peeling the plastic coating off of stainless steel industrial equipment in a being refurbished unheated factory on the south side of Chicago in the winter. It might have been OK in warm weather, but in the cold? That plastic just splintered off instead of peeling off. $4/hr. I said to myself, "Gustofer", I said, "you can do better than this." And I did. It took a lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice, but if I can do it, everyone can if they so choose. I won't enable people who just want to get by doing mediocre work at shit jobs, and obligatory tipping is just another word for enabling.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:<POST>

I mean…you are literally living the life of Mr. Pink!

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
I mean…you are literally living the life of Mr. Pink!

Yep.

Another story: When I first bought my current house (five miles out of town), we had a pizza place in town that delivered. One day I got home late and didn't feel like cooking anything for dinner so I ordered up a pizza. The young gal (early 20s) that delivered it was pleasant enough, but she looked rather dejected when I just paid for the pizza. I noticed this and asked her to have a seat. This is out of the norm for me which is why it sticks out...for some reason I felt the need to speak my mind to her. I explained my position as outlined above and encouraged her to strive for more.

There's a little bit more to the story than that, but today, that "young gal" is a physician completing her residency in family medicine this summer. I saw her recently and she gave me a huge hug and thanked me. I am so proud of her.

If that ain't something....

Tipping is out of control. Everybody wants a tip now. For what? For doing your job and typing in my order? What service did you provide?

I really don't care what your job pays that's not my problem. A lot of hvac, plumbers, mechanics, etc make 100k+ a year which is decent money, and I would still tip them more often for doing a good job on house or vehicle than I would tip a fast-food worker for typing in my order.

I tip my vehicle dealers when I bring in for annual state inspection. That’s the once a year for each to check everything out. Make sure any recalls are addressed if there are any, and just do a solid inspection of the drivetrain and powertrain. My motorcycles I maintain myself and don’t do this. But I do do this with my ski, truck, and car. But it’s not what you maybe think. I simply buy them lunch. On my car or truck it’s a $20 to buy the service manager and mechanic a Whataburger lunch each. Same if a bike goes in for anything. It’s paid off well for me over the years. Something will come up that should be expensive to take care of and instead I get charged a very nominal fee and get “We took care of X and just charged you for Y” type of thing. I take care of them and they take care of me.

Then anything on the house which I hire a contractor. If, and only if, they do an outstanding job, and I get charged a very fair amount, I’ll give each $20-50, maybe $100, really depends on the job.

So the things I’m most concerned with, my vehicles, and my house, I tip. I tip my wig splitter too. But that’s where it stops. I make my own coffee at home, I don’t go to restaurants but maybe once a year or perhaps on an annual vacation. I wash my own vehicles, and generally DIY most things.

Tipping culture in this country is completely out of control now and it's creating a big backlash.

Back in February we went to Orlando on the Amtrak Auto Train and I went to the dining car a couple of times to get a drink and a hot dog etc. They slap this stuff into a microwave and hand it to you, but the guy working the register made a big show of holding the handheld terminal up and showing where it asked for a tip. I made a big show in return by firmly pressing the "No Tip" button with a big flourish.

My local gas station (Circle K) has gas pump screens that now prompt you for donations to various things and you have to make a choice. I guess begging for a tip is next.

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Touchless automatic wash for me. No people involved at all.

is the drying process complete or does it leave water in many places??

You drive under a timed blower system. Think hair dryer but for your ride. My car wash has enough air velocity to lift the wipers off the windshield. Further drying occurs during the trip home.

I stopped by a chicken place today that reminded me of this thread. My buddy had told me a while ago about this place's hot chicken and it was good so if I was ever on that side of town I should try it out. I forgot all about it, but I was driving by it today and when I saw it I remembered about that conversation so I pulled in.

2 Strips and fries $14... hmm seems a little pricey for fast food type chicken, but if it's good then cool. Give the guy behind the counter my card and he points at a tablet below his screen asking if I wanted to leave a tip.. NOPE.. It's already $14 for 2 strips and fries and what exactly did you do?

The chicken was actually big and pretty good so I wasn't upset, but still... The guy behind the counter did nothing

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
You drive under a timed blower system. Think hair dryer but for your ride. My car wash has enough air velocity to lift the wipers off the windshield. Further drying occurs during the trip home.

thanks

The best car wash in six states and nine major cities has been up for sale here for seven months.

It's touchless.
And thirty years old.

One automated bay and four self serve sprayers.


It's in the soap ,
The owner invented his own soaps,
He has winter and summer solutions.

If I were 35 years younger I'd be in the car wash business

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I chose zero tip today at the breakfast provider as the bill for a croissant egg cheese sausage and cold brew coffee was $15.