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April 20, 2018, 05:16 PM
Audioholic
Annoying phrases
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Originally posted by sigfreund:
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Originally posted by 2012BOSS302:
There's no such thing as a stupid question.


Years ago a newspaper cartoon character responded to that statement by saying, “Anyone who believes that has never listened to a news conference.”

When I saw that response, I was immediately reminded of a question addressed to one of the briefers during the First Gulf War. The “journalist” asked what the military was doing about the debris from the Scud missiles that were destroyed in the air and how they would keep them from injuring people on the ground.

Oh, ooh, added: I just ran across another one: “Presentation” as in referring to drawing and aiming a handgun. It’s so stupid as to not even be annoying, but rather something to laugh out loud at.


One of my favorite lines from South Park:

"Remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people."




"Every time you think you weaken the nation" Moe Howard
April 21, 2018, 09:16 AM
bendable
something we , in the midwest hear a lot is
revitalization .

seems like it is mentioned daily on every local news show.

they spend 12 minutes talking about how no one wants to move here , then they spend 7 minutes
on how the cities are going to attract people here by putting up a casino





Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.



Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first
April 22, 2018, 09:09 AM
Eponym
“nice and <adjective>”
E.g. in woodworking videos, cuts are always “nice and straight”, tolerances are “nice and tight”, surfaces are “nice and smooth”, and so on.

“in a second”. Ten minutes later...
"I'll be with you in a second." My dad would immediately say "Time's up."

“reach out”
I hate that, too. Michelangelo’s picture The Creation of Adam comes to mind.
Next time someone says that, I’ll ask “Will I get a happy ending”.
April 22, 2018, 10:11 AM
Bulldog7972
Boots on the ground.
April 22, 2018, 11:30 AM
sigfreund
The (or perhaps an) original meaning of the word “nice” was precise or exact. At one time someone might have said, “The range to the target is a nice 100 yards,” meaning, “The range to the target is exactly 100 yards.” So “nice and straight” might mean “exactly straight.” (For a nice discussion of all that, Good Omens: The Nice And Accurate Prophecies Of Agnes Nutter, Witch by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman is a fun read.)

And yes, that might be redundant if straight means straight and not approximately straight, but then “exactly straight” would also be redundant. Wink




6.4/93.6

“Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.”
— Plato
April 22, 2018, 12:43 PM
egregore
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“Presentation” as in referring to drawing and aiming a handgun.

Big Grin You "present" a debutante at the ball or other formal introduction, not your handgun. Also "My gun/holster is so comfortable I 'forget it's there.'" A gun is the last thing you want to forget where it is.

You don't see this much any more as the older generation of gun scribblers have retired or passed, but using "medicine" or "pill" for a bullet always annoyed me. You don't shoot a game animal to make it feel better. Similarly, "savvy nimrod," sometimes even the two in the same sentence.
April 22, 2018, 02:58 PM
egregore
Firearms in general and semi-automatic handguns in particular described as "boring," for feeding, firing and ejecting every round with 100% reliability, i.e., doing what it is supposed to.
April 22, 2018, 05:35 PM
MNSIG
It probably shouldn't bug me, but trigger "press" drives me nuts. Shooters have been pulling and squeezing triggers for a few hundred years, but suddenly changing the word is going to make them stop flinching and shoot better?
April 22, 2018, 05:43 PM
mrapteam666
I used to use "you know what I mean" all the time till my dad broke me of the habit.

When in a restaurant I always say unsweetened.
I never thought anything about it till I was reading this discussion.

One of the annoying phrases for me comes from the military circles. Now it seems every training event/class the instructor repeats over and over to focus on the 25 meter target. It is a class on cultural norms and somehow they insert that phrase.
April 22, 2018, 06:39 PM
hi-power man
"step-up"

"common sense"


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High capacity is not an acceptable substitute for good marksmanship.
April 22, 2018, 07:00 PM
sigfreund
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Originally posted by MNSIG:
It probably shouldn't bug me, but trigger "press" drives me nuts. Shooters have been pulling and squeezing triggers for a few hundred years, but suddenly changing the word is going to make them stop flinching and shoot better?


I fell into the terminology of the day hole (“press”) myself for a time. The usual rationale for saying “press” rather than squeeze is something along the lines of, “If you say ‘squeeze,’ they’re going to think of squeezing a lemon and apply [constricting] pressure with their entire hand rather than just to the trigger.” The problem with listening to people whom we assume are smarter than we are is that we (I, anyway) sometimes fail to analyze what they’re saying. In the first place, when I hear “squeeze,” nothing about lemons or oranges comes to my mind. Far more important, though, is that any competent instructor should ensure that the student knows what everything means. And if he can’t explain what he means by squeeze and how a firearm trigger differs from a lemon, then he shouldn’t be trying to teach anyone anything.

And as for pressing rather than pulling a trigger, if it’s not pulling, then what is it? It’s nothing like pressing a button or anything else I can think of. Pulling is what it is, and changing what it’s called merely indicates to me that the instructor feels necessary to have unique gimmicks in his instruction rather than impressing his students with his ability to teach them to shoot.




6.4/93.6

“Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.”
— Plato
April 23, 2018, 07:27 AM
FiveFiveSixFan
'Drill down' and 'unpack' are two which I'm hearing far too frequently of late.
April 23, 2018, 07:46 AM
mikeyspizza
Reaching out.

GTF away from me and keep your hands to yourself!
April 23, 2018, 12:02 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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Drill down' and 'unpack' are two which I'm hearing far too frequently of late.


Instructions for treating an impacted bowel?
April 23, 2018, 12:20 PM
V-Tail
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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
'Drill down' and 'unpack' are two which I'm hearing far too frequently of late.
I don't travel much any more, but when I do, I usually unpack when I reach my destination.

Is there a different use for this term? Something I have not heard yet? Maybe something I escaped because I'm no longer forced to sit in company meetings and listen to the latest buzz words?



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April 23, 2018, 12:20 PM
FiveFiveSixFan
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
Drill down' and 'unpack' are two which I'm hearing far too frequently of late.


Instructions for treating an impacted bowel?


Those employing the terms are almost always FOS so they may benefit from that treatment. Big Grin
April 23, 2018, 01:13 PM
FiveFiveSixFan
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
'Drill down' and 'unpack' are two which I'm hearing far too frequently of late.
I don't travel much any more, but when I do, I usually unpack when I reach my destination.

Is there a different use for this term? Something I have not heard yet? Maybe something I escaped because I'm no longer forced to sit in company meetings and listen to the latest buzz words?


It's being used as a synonym for words like explore, examine, analyze, dissect, etc. There will be a problem (or perhaps an opportunity?) and solution will be proposed. The Minister of Buzz Words running the goat rope will then say something profound like, "Well let's unpack this and drill down on the specifics."
April 23, 2018, 01:49 PM
Gutpile Charlie
I get my knickers in a wad any time I hear a sentence about firearms that has the word "run" in it. Also people that call gun stocks "furniture" just don't realize how stupid they sound. Completely inappropriate word.

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April 23, 2018, 03:15 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
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Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
'Drill down' and 'unpack' are two which I'm hearing far too frequently of late.
I don't travel much any more, but when I do, I usually unpack when I reach my destination.

Is there a different use for this term? Something I have not heard yet? Maybe something I escaped because I'm no longer forced to sit in company meetings and listen to the latest buzz words?
It's being used as a synonym for words like explore, examine, analyze, dissect, etc. There will be a problem (or perhaps an opportunity?) and solution will be proposed. The Minister of Buzz Words running the goat rope will then say something profound like, "Well let's unpack this and drill down on the specifics."
I used to laugh out loud at this shit in meetings. I was the guy who would point out that the emperor had no clothes. My attempts to get myself uninvited to the meetings did not work.



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April 23, 2018, 05:57 PM
FiveFiveSixFan
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My attempts to get myself uninvited to the meetings did not work.


You really have to 'think out of the box' to get uninvited.