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| Green grass and high tides  |
My God, prices are have reached the stratosphere. I mean come on. Like a tiny package weighing less than 2 lbs almost $13, wth? Not all of us has a government job  And yes I know about their ultra tiny $7+ flat rate box and their next one that is $14 I do not expect it to be a no fee service. But It is funded by the tax payer's for cris sakes.This message has been edited. Last edited by: old rugged cross, "Practice like you want to play in the game" | ||
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| When you fall, I will be there to catch you -With love, the floor |
Yet you made no mention of by what method it was being shipped or to where? I routinely ship packages that heavy (and more ) for less than seven Priority Mail. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
rocky mtn west to Va, Just under $13 priority. I did not put it in their tiny flat rate box as I did not think it would fit originally. I could not believe it. 5x8x2-1/2" "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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USPS is a bargain these days, now that UPS and FedEx have gone to "dimension weight" for all packages. A large box that contains nothing but air will ship as 40# on common carrier, because they base the rate on the size of the box. | |||
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FedEx has a flat rate envelope that's guaranteed in 3 days and $9.50. But try to ship a box with them and forget about the price.....you'll fall over. All shippers have gotten expensive. | |||
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I agree... USPS is the only reasonable way to ship things... UPS and FedEx are crazy with their dimensional weight.. I was unaware of this dimensional weight thing and I shipped 2 rifles to the same place but in 2 separate boxes.. for whatever reason my customer wanted one of them shipped in this huge rifle case so the box was quite a bit bigger but didn't really weigh any more than the other one. The first box was like $20-$25 I don't remember the exact number... the second bigger box because he wanted it shipped inside rifle case was around $80... it wasn't 3 times bigger, but thanks to their crazy math it was 3 times more to ship it  | |||
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| Purveyor of Fine Avatars  |
Again...the USPS is not tax funded. It is the only federal agency privately funded through sales of its own products and services. "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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Yes, except they're exempt from taxes, fees, and other costs of doing business in the private sector - not to mention their protected monopoly and deeply discounted interest rate on their credit line from the federal reserve - to the tune of about $20B per year. That's a 'B' for Billion. What do you think would happen to FedEx and UPS if their cost of doing business was similarly "lightened"? To pretend that USPS operates in a competitive environment with private shippers is farcical. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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Looks like that's not even the full cost- 1st Class Mail subsidizes the package shipping costs.
An April analysis from Citigroup estimates that if costs were fairly allocated, on average parcels would cost $1.46 more to deliver. It is as if every Amazon box comes with a dollar or two stapled to the packing slip–a gift card from Uncle Sam. https://postalnews.com/blog/20...-subsidizing-amazon/ ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
And I am guessing the crazy and outrageous benefit package for all its employee's, full or part time are not taxpayer funded either aye orguss? Things like every imaginable holiday off. Health care coverage like no one else. closed at lunch. retirement like no one else. etc, etc, etc, "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Priority has definitely gotten more expensive in the past few years (what hasn't?), but I found a couple good ways to save a bit of money when I was shipping a lot of packages. When possible, I like to ship in "regional rate" boxes. The boxes are only available from USPS.com (free of charge like other priority boxes,) and you have to print your own postage from USPS online. It's one of USPS's commercial services, so rates are lower than what you get at the post office counter. Regional Rate Box A1 is a nice size in between the small and medium flat rate. Using one of those, your postage would have been $10.28. Also, if you have a Paypal account, you can buy postage for anything except regional rate boxes here at the commercial base price. Using your own box or a non-flat rate USPS box, postage would have been $10.28 through them. All numbers taken from USPS Price List, assuming a package 2lb or less shipping to zone 8. [edited to fix link]This message has been edited. Last edited by: S600MBUSA, _________________________ Their system of ethics, which regards treachery and violence as virtues rather than vices, has produced a code of honour so strange and inconsistent, that it is incomprehensible to a logical mind. -Winston Churchill, writing of the Pashtun | |||
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| Purveyor of Fine Avatars |
I'm failing to understand what part of "self-funded" you're incapable of understanding. "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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| Striker in waiting |
He's probably hung up on the implication in the phrase that USPS is operating in the same market environment as every other for-profit corporation, which is clearly a bunch of crap. http://fortune.com/2015/03/27/us-postal-service/ If by 'self-funded' you mean "USPS doesn't take any direct payments from .fed, but given a level playing field, would be hopelessly underwater", then I think we can all probably agree. Do you also happen to own stock in Amtrak? I hear it's also self-funded and very successful. At something. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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click n ship used to give you a slight discount for shipping online, now the same as walking in the post office, still, it is the best way to ship, regional rate boxes are the bomb, as long as you meet the different from standard flat rate weight restrictions, long guns and like size items are hit or miss on cost, some are cheaper to send USPS, some cheaper to send UPS ground , (yes not quite apples to apples, but close enough) https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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| Shit don't mean shit |
I just wish you could create a shipment for parcel post (whatever they call it now a days) online. The only options online are the more expensive options. Want parcel post, you MUST go to to location and stand in line. | |||
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| Lost Allman Brother |
Just checked Paypal shipping. They allow you to print a label for First Class package (under 16 oz), Media Mail, and Parcel Select in addition to the more expensive Priority options, all charged at the commercial base rate. _________________________ Their system of ethics, which regards treachery and violence as virtues rather than vices, has produced a code of honour so strange and inconsistent, that it is incomprehensible to a logical mind. -Winston Churchill, writing of the Pashtun | |||
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| When you fall, I will be there to catch you -With love, the floor |
Ground is $11.00. As stated , the regional boxes save a lot. UPS and FedEx are no cheaper and probably more expensive. I'll go with the PO. I can print the shipping label and they pick it up at the house. What's it worth to have to find a UPS outlet or FedEx to drop off a package. Even for a bit less it's not worth it. The PO has the same tracking as the others so it works for me. | |||
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| Grandiosity is a sign of mental illness |
LOL. The USPS loses billions of dollars every year. Who exactly do you think covers those enormous operational losses? Taxpayers, of course. With subsidized lending. Hey at least so far they still seem to be maintaining the fiction that those are just 'loans', but even if they - somehow - ever get paid back, billions of dollars in loans at below market interest rates still represent a large subsidy. And assuming those *cough* *cough* 'loans' will, or can, ever be repaid..... | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
Closed at lunch? Not here in Jerkwater. I bet that's a decision made by the local Postmaster. | |||
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Especially when you live 10 miles from the Post Office. Free carrier pickup on my front porch, any day. And when there is a pickup, all of our mail is left on the front porch and I don't have to hobble 100 yards to the mailbox.  | |||
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