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Originally posted by SFCUSARET:
I suspect as much! No concern for the common law abiding people that had plans, Dadgummit.

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Originally posted by LDD:
If you were on trial for a crime or tort you didn't commit, would you want people like yourself on the jury?

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Originally posted by SFCUSARET:
Oh I agree whole heartedly agree with both of you. But couldn't the powers to be at county have scheduled this last Monday or next Monday. NOOOO!!!! They got to schedule it on a holiday eve!!! What's so special about this Wenesday!

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Originally posted by LDD:
There's never a convenient time to serve on a jury.

OTOH, there is at least one documented case in Oregon (the last state where you can be convicted by an non-unanimous jury) where 10 people on a 12 person felony-trial jury voted guilty on the evidence. One person voted not guilty. One person voted guilty because that person could not find childcare for the next day and didn't want to come back to court for further deliberations. Defendant was thusly found guilty.

Being on a jury is like voting, except you're voting in a smaller pool, to decide a smaller-scaled issue. But it is a civic duty just the same. You have a right to jury of your peers--if good people don't show up for jury duty, who will sit on the jury when good people are on trial? If you were on trial for a crime or tort you didn't commit, would you want people like yourself on the jury?

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Originally posted by highroundcount:

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Originally posted by LDD:
There's never a convenient time to serve on a jury.

OTOH, there is at least one documented case in Oregon (the last state where you can be convicted by an non-unanimous jury) where 10 people on a 12 person felony-trial jury voted guilty on the evidence. One person voted not guilty. One person voted guilty because that person could not find childcare for the next day and didn't want to come back to court for further deliberations. Defendant was thusly found guilty.

Being on a jury is like voting, except you're voting in a smaller pool, to decide a smaller-scaled issue. But it is a civic duty just the same. You have a right to jury of your peers--if good people don't show up for jury duty, who will sit on the jury when good people are on trial? If you were on trial for a crime or tort you didn't commit, would you want people like yourself on the jury?

I had never heard that story. Messed up someones life because they couldn't find a babysitter. That's some cold hearted selfish shit. Wouldn't want to be near that person when karma comes around to deliver.

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Singleton and another juror refusing to change their votes, despite intense pressure from other jurors, including one woman who began standing on a couch in the jury room. Another holdout abruptly switched her vote to guilty after the court clerk came in to ask when the panel would be back the following day. That woman explained that she could not continue deliberating because of her child care arrangement, Singleton said.

"I just put my head down, and that was it," Singleton said in an interview. "Clearly, if two people don't believe a person is guilty, there has to be some level of doubt. Everyone who has a say in that person's fate should agree on the outcome. There shouldn't be a gray area."

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Originally posted by LDD:

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Originally posted by highroundcount:

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Originally posted by LDD:
There's never a convenient time to serve on a jury.

OTOH, there is at least one documented case in Oregon (the last state where you can be convicted by an non-unanimous jury) where 10 people on a 12 person felony-trial jury voted guilty on the evidence. One person voted not guilty. One person voted guilty because that person could not find childcare for the next day and didn't want to come back to court for further deliberations. Defendant was thusly found guilty.

Being on a jury is like voting, except you're voting in a smaller pool, to decide a smaller-scaled issue. But it is a civic duty just the same. You have a right to jury of your peers--if good people don't show up for jury duty, who will sit on the jury when good people are on trial? If you were on trial for a crime or tort you didn't commit, would you want people like yourself on the jury?

I had never heard that story. Messed up someones life because they couldn't find a babysitter. That's some cold hearted selfish shit. Wouldn't want to be near that person when karma comes around to deliver.

I didn't get the breakdown of the jury exactly right, but here is the article:

https://www.theadvocate.com/ba...fd-7b5b18c775c3.html

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Singleton and another juror refusing to change their votes, despite intense pressure from other jurors, including one woman who began standing on a couch in the jury room. Another holdout abruptly switched her vote to guilty after the court clerk came in to ask when the panel would be back the following day. That woman explained that she could not continue deliberating because of her child care arrangement, Singleton said.

"I just put my head down, and that was it," Singleton said in an interview. "Clearly, if two people don't believe a person is guilty, there has to be some level of doubt. Everyone who has a say in that person's fate should agree on the outcome. There shouldn't be a gray area."