Wife's sister is a flaming liberal, early 80's and will switch sides in mid argument just to keep it going. "I never said that" is her favorite come-back when caught switching sides. She's the ONLY one that knows anything and will (and has...) accuse you of lying and presenting Fake News or Made Up Data if you flop proof in front of her.
Lately, she and my wife are incapable of being in the same room without arguing. Due to childhood circumstances I won't bore you with, I cannot ABIDE arguing. I was already aggravated from the DTV thing (see other post) and I lost my shit, stormed into the kitchen and (not quite) yelled "If you two can't be in the same room without arguing, ONE OF YOU NEEDS TO LEAVE!"
Fortunately, my wife understands that the tirade was directed at her sister and, while she'd like to maintain a decent relationship, is just as fed up with her shit as I am.
Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
January 04, 2024, 11:24 AM
V-Tail
Today is probably not a good day for you to be packing heat.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים
January 04, 2024, 11:34 AM
PHPaul
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail: Today is probably not a good day for you to be packing heat.
Ya think?
Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
January 04, 2024, 11:38 AM
P220 Smudge
Normally, I’d say getting involved when it’s two sisters fighting is a bad idea no matter who you side with, but with the ages involved, I think it’s time.
______________________________________________ Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon.
January 04, 2024, 11:38 AM
selogic
It needed to be said . I'm a firm believer in treating family just like anybody else . I will NOT bite my tongue just to keep from offending some family member . My Mom and I couldn't be in the same room for more than a few minutes so I know how it feels .
January 04, 2024, 11:52 AM
erj_pilot
PHPaul’s house. PHPaul’s rules.
Badda bing. Badda boom.
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail: Today is probably not a good day for you to be packing heat.
erj_pilot proceeds to wipe off coffee splatter from iPad screen…………
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
January 04, 2024, 12:57 PM
flesheatingvirus
I'll be in the shop...fixing...something. (breaks something on the way out of the house)
________________________________________
-- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. --
January 04, 2024, 01:22 PM
400m
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus: I'll be in the shop...fixing...something. (breaks something on the way out of the house)
lol I see you know that one also flesh.
January 04, 2024, 10:35 PM
Fredward
I have relatives I can no longer visit. Used to be, you could differ politically and still be friendly. Now, leftists are like door to door religious zealots and cannot just STFU about politics and have a decent visit. Hard as it is for some people to understand, there are things other than politics going on in the world.
January 04, 2024, 11:55 PM
sigmonkey
"My name is Lobo. I hunt alone..."
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
January 05, 2024, 06:12 AM
Sig2340
A bucket of ice cold seawater thrown on them will help.
Nice is overrated
"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
January 05, 2024, 06:26 AM
pootie
Had 2 aunts (sisters) that consistently got into arguments whenever they were together at Christmas. Escalating voice volume usually followed by the sound of 1 hand clapping! Husbands would step in and separate them, remove glasses and turn them loose to settle whatever their differences were. Entertaining for us youngsters!
I had my patience tested... I'm negative.
January 07, 2024, 05:19 PM
gjgalligan
I have an older brother that is left as can be so him and I disagree greatly. I understand how you could loose it. Even worse is I have the same problem with a daughter.
Integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
January 07, 2024, 05:33 PM
flesheatingvirus
quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340: A bucket of ice cold seawater thrown on them will help.
Does it have to be seawater?
________________________________________
-- Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past me I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. --
January 07, 2024, 05:40 PM
IndianaMike
[QUOTE]Originally posted by erj_pilot: PHPaul’s house. PHPaul’s rules.
Badda bing. Badda boom.
2nd this
January 07, 2024, 05:48 PM
goose5
Stop arguing with her. Simple as that. Above all else don't lose your shit. Even if she starts it. Smile and change the subject. If it is as you describe she is not arguing in good faith what are you learning or gaining from the encounter? If she presses after that leave. I think your wife will understand you are trying to make things better. Politics isn't worth it.
_________________________ OH, Bonnie McMurray!
January 07, 2024, 05:50 PM
220-9er
Trying to "win" an argument with an irrational person falls in the life's too short category. Relative or not.
Originally posted by goose5: Stop arguing with her. Simple as that. Above all else don't lose your shit. Even if she starts it. Smile and change the subject. If it is as you describe she is not arguing in good faith what are you learning or gaining from the encounter? If she presses after that leave. I think your wife will understand you are trying to make things better. Politics isn't worth it.
Trust me, all the above has been tried and failed. It's not just politics, we refuse to even acknowledge any political statements. I am not exaggerating when I say that ANY discussion on ANY subject turns into an argument. Example: They went on a trip several years ago to visit the place their mother was born in Nova Scotia. My wife reminisced about the route and the town and she said "There's no such town and we never crossed a bridge." This after showing her a map of the area that clearly shows the town, the river and the route.
Leaving is not an option, she comes to OUR house and starts this shit.
There are signs that dementia is a component of this behavior, but she's been a shit-stirrer for the nearly 50 years I've known her. It's just gotten completely out of hand.
Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
January 07, 2024, 06:38 PM
PHPaul
quote:
Originally posted by goose5: I apologize I misread the OP. It's your wife and sister-in-law arguing. Under those circumstances, I'd recommend limiting exposure. Talk to your wife about it. Let her know what you're thinking about it. Ask her what she thinks would be best. You just not be there when she is, or not invite/accept her invitation as often. When you are together tune her out. I find that really easy. I just start streaming a podcast or music over my hearing aids.
Wife hates it every bit as much as I do, and actually thanked me for making our feelings plain. She didn't want to be the bad guy, plus her sister would have found a way to blame it all on her.
She KNOWS better than to try that shit with me.
The sad part is, her sister is basically a nice person and would give you the shirt off her back if you were in trouble, it's just that she's convinced that she's the only person in the room that knows anything and wants everybody to know it.
Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
January 07, 2024, 06:50 PM
goose5
My father-in-law is the same way. A minister by trade, but politically oh man. One more step to the left he'd drop off the face of the Earth. And, nicely brings it up at every chance. But, my wife and I are on the same page and quickly change the subject.
Many years ago he sat at my table blathering on about global warming. I said if he'd be interested I could present counter argument and provide him with information he might not be aware of. He politely declined. That's when I made the decision to not talk politics with him ever again. He's not interested in arguing in good faith, and that just leads to heartburn.
Sounds like you handled it, and some positive steps were achieved. Only time will tell.