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In any case see another physician. Maybe they are a dime a dozen in AZ, but good ones here are scarce. I waited one year for an opening and have been with him for 11 years. I doubt this is about money and I wonder whether the doc knew what you had been through with his staff. Good luck | |||
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This is intended as a joke. Doctor we have a subpoena duces tecum for you. Sounds serious we will have our process server deliver it some time next week. Might want to lawyer up! | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
PSA is well within the normal range and if he doesn't know it, he shouldn't be a Doctor. If he does know it, he's looking for a cash cow. And putting someone with cholesterol numbers like mine on a statin is definitely cash cow country. Here's one more for the thread. The Doctor I fired prior to this one was a dentist. Had a root canal that went sideways and so I needed a bridge. This was in the days just before implants. Got a bridge done by a doctor. A few days later I was eating a salad with croutons and a tooth sudden popped out of the bridge. Swallowed before I knew it happened. Went to the dentist who said whether I knew it or not, the crouton was extremely hard or it wouldn't have happened. Got the bridge fixed, a week or so later I was eating a piece of french bread and another tooth popped out and was gone. Went to Dentist and he said the same as before, that obviously the french bread was hard as a rock. I said it wasn't, but he was adamant. Got it fixed again. Third tooth popped out while eating an ice cream cone. Told the Dentist what happened and he said it was my fault, his lab was great. Went to another dentist and got the whole thing redone and it's been great ever since. I can eat french bread, croutons, macadamia nuts, cashews, almonds, anything at all and the teeth remain in place. New Dentist said his lab said the bridge was very poorly made. Fired first Dentist. | |||
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PSA trends are what is important. I assume he did a DRE because PSA is useless without it. Tell me how checking statins is a big money maker? Your average PCP has 2500 patients so I doubt you will be missed. | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
Moving .2 points is NOT a trend, it's an anomaly which can easily be brought on by having sex within 24 hours of the PSA test and that was exactly what happened. I've found I can duplicate this anytime I take a PSA test. He did no DRE test. And how is checking statins a money maker? Because you have to go in for an office visit and check monthly with the guy I fired. I asked and that's what I was told. I'm aware that the standard is 3 months at first, then 12 months and apparently he isn't. And then let's discuss the downside of taking statins, but first think about the fact that while my LDL is 131, muy HDL is 99. That's the important number and statins are unnecessary for someone with those numbers. Back to the downside of taking something I don't even need: muscle pain liver damage increased blood sugar or type 2 diabetes neurological side effects And the upside? None. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah after your third MI that makes sense. It is a TREND over several years with a PSA. You are a medicare patient so I doubt he makes more than 75 bucks a visit. Why dont you ask the competent dentist for a referral? | |||
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After a considerable amount of weight loss, My three doctors are actually interacting with me now. I guess when you act/ look like you don't care , Your health care professionals start not to care also. No kidding They are showing interest. It's kind of a good feeling Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
Whoever called these the “golden years” had a hell of a sense of humor. | |||
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I don't even want to imagine how my health may have changed for the worse over the last 3 years if I hadn't already made decisions regarding my food. I used to think the best benefit of my job was the health coverage. I now believe I could manage with a direct primary care plan. "Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels" Ensigmatic, I've seen that meme on Twitter and IG as well. | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
You're my hero (and I, too, would tell your doc to take a long walk off a short pier). ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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About PSA values- I’m a geezer and until recently I did not know any of the below potential factors which could raise your PSA test values (As well as any medical procedure(s) in your piping). Mileage may vary. Sex Ejaculation can cause the prostate to transiently leak more PSA into the blood for about one to two days. Also, having “too much” sex puts stress on the prostate gland causing irritation which can elevate the value. (Some docs recommend abstaining for 72 hours prior to PSA test). Prostate stimulation Prostatic massage or a digital rectal exam may cause minor PSA elevations. Riding a bicycle or motorcycle Hard or long distance bicycle or motorcycle riding can apply pressure on the perineum which transfers to the prostrate, and may cause temporary spikes in tPSA. You may have to abstain from riding at least 24 hours before having your PSA tested. (My doc told me to avoid the bike or motorcycle riding for greater than 48 hours+ before a PSA test. It cost me another PSA test to learn this). Heredity Some men possess genes that predisposition them to a naturally higher baseline PSA than can be 10% above what is considered “normal”. Only genetic testing can identify whether you have this gene. | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
I would have fired him/her too. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That is what happens. Good post | |||
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Three friends in three days. One has cancer One died One diagnosed with dementia. I am a little dizzy, disoriented Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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been there, was put on a statin years ago cause I needed it, according to the Doc, who I trusted, so I got the lowest dose Statin, and after 6 months I hurt, from my waist down, so I started with fish oil, 2-4 a day, and dropped the statin, no one at the Doc's office cared, and my numbers were still in line, as if I were taking the statin, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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That is too bad. The doctors here are so busy that it is hard to get in to see them. If he was that concerned about your PSA he should have referred you to a urologist. BTW it is a lot more than Cholesterol numbers. Family history, whether you smoke, your diet, alcohol intake etc. Again I have never had that sort of treament by a doctor's office. Get established with someone else. | |||
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Only the strong survive |
My doctor is five years younger than me and still working at 75. He looks five years older than me but he has always treated me fairly with him being a workaholic. I have studied health for forty years and have sent him several books. He always finds a way to fit you in if you have an emergency. You can learn a lot by subscribing to the Life Extension magazine: https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine They offer products that are anti-aging and articles that inform you on how to extend your life. 41 | |||
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Savor the limelight |
In the checkout line at the hardware store with my 12 year old son a few days ago: Son: “You ok, Dad?” Me: “I’m fine, my toes just hurt. That’s what happens when you start getting old, you start complaining about all the parts the hurt and don’t work anymore.” Son: "Is that why you get headaches ‘cause your brain doesn’t work anymore?” Whole line starts laughing. | |||
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In the absence of symptoms, why in the heck would a person see a urologist for a 3.8 PSA. It is a terrible screening test and leads to unneeded biopsies at a ratio of approximately 50:1 over useful diagnosis. That is a genuine harm that must be considered. The whole concept of early diagnosis is perverted in the case of prostate cancer as statistics like 5 year survival are heavily skewed by lead time bias. | |||
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Cold Ass Honkey |
Say it t'aint so! ------------------------------ Never fully gruntled. | |||
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